12-06-02 Henry J Kaiser Oakland

Other Ones - Fall Tour 2002: 12-06-02 Henry J Kaiser Oakland
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Funkyriddims (Funkyriddims) (63.229.93.38) on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 04:34 pm: Edit Post

Wanted to see who else will be going to these shows. I know theyre still a ways down the road, but I cant wait!
Happy Happy Joy Joy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Zink Zincley (Cozmikzink) (65.100.32.190) on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 10:35 pm: Edit Post

I'm going. Got a ticket for the first night. Need a Friday. Who's got my EXTRAAAAAAAA????


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Zink Zincley (Cozmikzink) (65.100.34.248) on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 04:36 pm: Edit Post

Just got my ticket through ticketbastard.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By GhostDancer (Nawaghee) (12.234.156.226) on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 09:30 pm: Edit Post

LET"S GET IT ON ALREADY!!! These reviewa are driving me nuts!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Justin L (198.24.6.135) on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 01:55 pm: Edit Post

I have been lucky to have an opportunity to catch these shows while on a business trip from the East Coast...but that means I am travelling solo. Any kind crowds looking to just mix a little would be cool. I was always happy to float around on tour so this should be no different.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Douglas (Doogels) (64.173.21.21) on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 02:19 pm: Edit Post

I'll be at both shows, but I'm flying solo. My buddy who introduced me to this Long Strange Trip a la PLQ wants to go, but is stuck w/out cashola, so he'll be out there looking for a miracle. Kinda strange -- my musical mentor being stuck in the park while I'm in getting my groove on....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Rawson (Tomrawson) (64.7.20.18) on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 05:35 pm: Edit Post

Does anyone know if cameras, specifically digital cameras, are permitted inside HJK?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Raelrubes (Raelrubes) (12.253.119.121) on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 03:51 am: Edit Post

Hey y'all.
I am looking for a Friday Kaiser so I can make the trip from Colorado.
I'm happy to burn some discs from my large GD CD collection as a showing of appreciation.
Scott

303-377-0447

Can do a California exchange. Thanks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Adams (Thegame) (24.216.47.246) on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 09:29 am: Edit Post

OK, I'm breaking down and giving this a chance. I'm not at all excited about flying across the country to hear Weir, but I know our boys from the Qunitet will make it worth the journey. I just hope all the horror stories I hear about the sound are not a problem from my vantage point at the Kaiser, cause Weir sounds bad enough without any other problems adding to his struggles.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dewit (Dewit) (67.82.70.79) on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 09:02 am: Edit Post

Digi Cameras not allowed without photopass-I have had others taken, or film taken out. Depends on who does your patdown. Because of the PR factor at these shows, assume you won't get it in.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jake Howard (Jakeh75) (216.186.55.203) on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 01:20 pm: Edit Post

Fred,

You must have some sort of hearing problem


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LessThan (Lessthan) (151.196.235.242) on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 03:33 pm: Edit Post

>>>>>Does anyone know if cameras, specifically digital cameras, are permitted inside HJK?


We took our elph into every show we went to.
no problems whatsoever.
It is digital.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By triptanite (Triptanite) (209.245.64.233) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 03:03 am: Edit Post

any setlists from tonights show.. where are the trippers tonite..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By FRANKL (Frankl) (67.234.203.56) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 03:24 am: Edit Post

Set 1: Good Lovin'> Tennessee Jed> Lost Sailor> St. of Circumstance, Only The Strange Remain> Cumberland Blues> Estimated Prophet> Casey Jones - thanks Headlight & Baligirl

Hunter: Days Between> Deal or Wheel> Loser...... Cats Under The Stars> Stella Blue

Set 2: He's Gone> Lazy Lightning> Supplication> Mtns. Of The Moon> UJB> Terrapin> Dark Star> Drumz> Space> Lady With A Fan> Dark Star, Happy Birthday Graham (Lesh)> Touch of Grey - thanks Headlight & Baligirl

I believe that is right.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sean (Onearmedman) (12.232.143.246) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 04:12 am: Edit Post

Two words

That SCHMOKED!!!

Thanks for a real good time!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lord Henry (Terrapindew) (209.86.5.39) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 04:41 am: Edit Post

YUP!!.........Fantastic show, couldnt have asked for more!! The Boys gave it good to the hometown!! Thank You!

It was great to see all the zoners again.

Review tomarrow.....

"WE WILL SURVIVE!" :O


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scalia (Scalia) (67.120.87.2) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 04:43 am: Edit Post

2nd set:
He's Gone>
Lazy Lightning>
Mountains of the Moon>
Uncle John's>
Lady With a Fan>
Dark Star (v1)>
Drums>
Space>
Terrapin Station>
Dark Star (v2)

E: Happy BDay Graham
Touch of Grey


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Douglas (Doogels) (64.161.27.17) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 04:57 am: Edit Post

OMG....
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..
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Was that the same band?!?! Oh, man....oh, man.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dewit (Dewit) (67.82.70.79) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 09:28 am: Edit Post

>Digi Cameras not allowed without photopass-I have had others taken, or film taken out. Depends on who does your patdown. Because of the PR factor at these shows, assume you won't get it in.

My poor...digi cameras bigger than a pack of cigarettes. My film on my regular 35m was taken both the 30th and the 31st.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By DaveStraw (Davestraw) (65.57.40.208) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 10:19 am: Edit Post

What a show! as least on paper. Wake up Cali....where are the reviews?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dewit (Dewit) (67.82.70.79) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 10:21 am: Edit Post

Would you be awake at 7:30 on a Saturday morning, post show? LOL.

Patience...like I have any!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Huck Lewis (Huckberry) (68.161.91.47) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 10:47 am: Edit Post

Actually I probably would be up.
But I'm an Eastie...never sleep....
you know those left coast freaks will sleep till noon and still call it a GOOD MORNING
mutter mutter mutter
tell us about the switched up Terrapin!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peggy-O (Peggyo10) (152.163.189.169) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 10:57 am: Edit Post

guess i'm an eastie, too. there must be something to explain why i'm up at this hour.

my review is three words:

GET THIS SHOW.

you want more?

GET THIS FRIGGIN SHOW, ASAP.

(more? that will have to wait until after some sleep. mmmm...sleep...)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dewit (Dewit) (67.82.70.79) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 11:01 am: Edit Post

Would you be awake at 7:30 on a Saturday morning, post show? LOL.

Either you are asleep, or just going to bed...is that better.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Huck Lewis (Huckberry) (68.161.91.47) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 11:04 am: Edit Post

not really. This past run had me hitting the shower at 5 A and up again at 8:30...
oh...well...maybe Philly is a bad way to judge....
the CONSTRUCTION SITE that got active at 8 am on Monday morning
BANG
BANG
BANG

I see already a switched up Terra discrepancy
and did they really not do the Supplication???


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peggy-O (Peggyo10) (152.163.189.169) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 11:10 am: Edit Post

or you have a cat who thinks she's a pinball and bounces from wall to wall with rather loud crashes and once you wake up you're too excited to fall back asleep because one of your bestest friends is flying into town and you're going to TAHOE for the first time ever! :) catch y'all when i get back!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Huck Lewis (Huckberry) (68.161.91.47) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 11:12 am: Edit Post

Pegggggy O
have fun at the lake - never been but I hear it's a big LAKE -
we'll rock it BK style for you while you get all crunchy Sierra Nevada on us
:)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By martin denny (Martindenny) (158.252.219.66) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 11:21 am: Edit Post

I am indeed awake and still BEAMING from last night's incredibly tasty treat at the Kaiser. The whole night was just incredibly smooth, from the urban hike from our home on the other side of the Lake, to the seamless, rocking 1st set and rousing, mystery-laden second set. Bobhy absolutely stole said 1st set, much to my giddy pleasure. Only the Strange not really strange enough, but Cumberland and Casey Jones were stellar, just incredible. Rare gem of the night: Mtns of the Moon. This one has been playing in my head all morning, and brings with it a sweet feeling of sadness and joy, like a dear friend you may never see again. Lots of muscle and chops as well. Terrapin tease, a truly cosmic DarkStar (AMAZING lights), and cracking the old skull with Lady w/a Fan. Never had seen Rbt Hunter before, but he seemed pretty reserved, never really cut loose on his guitar. Stella Blue rang true, though. Another heartwrencher...
Majic most certainly afoot at the Wizard's Den in Oaktown, boyeee!

BTW-Elvis loves you


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By steve mann (Mannfred) (66.169.106.202) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 11:22 am: Edit Post

Peggy-0: Tahoe is gorgeous...but pretty cold this time of year.....it's swimmable in summer..make sure you go to emerald bay


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fuldad (Binlajolla) (65.178.65.98) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 11:40 am: Edit Post

THE SOUND WAS GOOD LAST NIGHT..CLEAN...LOUD..EVEN ON THE SIDES...

WHAT HAPPENED..??

Rim Shot..tat tat...

I cruised the Jerry Pit left right front back and settled in next to sound board for set 2...

Thanks TOO for a real good time...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 024 (Deadicatedmamma) (68.117.32.113) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 11:47 am: Edit Post

Musta been some good acid goin around last night. ;*)

Hope it made up for the show that bummed everyone out.

p.s. Thanks Martin!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scalia (Scalia) (67.120.87.2) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 01:46 pm: Edit Post

Sorry I missed the zoner gathering, but I left the office late. Hope everyone had great time.
I wandered in around 6:45 and found room right on the rail just below the board monitor (Jerry side). Had a couple of monitors blocking my view of Billy and Mickey for the most part, but otherwise a perfect vantage point.
The sound was very good. Volume was ample with the 4 man rythym section loudest. Jimmy was just below them, with keys just below that. At least from where I was the only thing tough to hear was the B3. Most importantly, the sound was clean.
Good Lovin came right out of the box. Thumping and driving courtesy of Phil. Jeff took a barely audible solo on the B3 and the rap lead to a very nice spacy jam. They brought it back around to some more rapping then a tempo slow down and Jimmy started Ten Jed.
Bobby and Rob alternated verses, 2 at a time, and Jimmy took the solo. The jam was good, but didnt quite reach the heights possible.
Looked to me like Rob left for Lost Sailor (but I couldnt really see the electic piano so he may have been there). Sailor was solid but suffered from the same old problem of the drummers playing too hard and fast. It is a ballad guys. Some excellent speed picking from Jimmy lead to St. of Circumstance.
St. was good, a perfect showcase for the rythm heavy sound of the evening. The jam didnt get too pychedelic as Jimmy stayed fairly close to the theme.
This fell into Only the Strange, which I took as a sign from the gods that it was time for another beer.
Returned just as Cumberland began to pick up. This one was on fire from the start. Was close to the original and didnt get spacy between the jams ala PLQ. Just perfect electric dixieland.
Estimated followed nicely. Like Ten Jed, the intraverse jam was good, not great. No Bobby-rock-star-edge-of-the-stage-shenanegins (unfortunately). The jam following was solid also with a good up tempo meltdown before the countdown into Casey Jones.
Casey rocked. As always. Very quick, loud, and full of energy at the end.
Robert Hunter was out between sets. My only complaint was that his wireless was giving off some high end noise. Kinda like listening to a 5th gen analog. As Janine would say, "someone put on the Dubly." Hunter was very good. Was the 3rd or 4th time Ive seen him and his voice was as solid as Ive heard. Days Between, Deal (during which I made a beer run and returned for), Cats Down, Stella Blue. He finished with an a capella tune (not Boys in the Barroom) which was very cool.
A slow jam (with touches of the Wheel) led into He's Gone. Bobby did a solid job on the vocals and the vocal jam was very nice. It led into an uptempo Truckin/Other One space (in other words a standard He's Gone jam) before falling back into He's Gone and then into Lazy Lightning.
Jimmy was all over the place (in a good way) with this one, and the intraverse jam was nicely extended. As Phil began the Supplication, I ran into the hall to cool down, grab a beer and prepare for the "meat." From the hall the sound was fine and I could hear an excellent Supplication Jam. I didnt hear the lyrics, but they may have been played. Even if they werent, it was Supplication enough.
The led led into Phil style Mtns of the Moon. Tighter than PLQ, but went some interesting places.
UJB was very good. Jimmy's guitar was clean, bright, and perfect. And none of that calypso crap that PLQ does!!! A loud and thumping UJB jam slowed down into Lady With a Fan.
Phil took the vocals and sang straight through the "Storyteller takes no choice verse." A nice Bobby(?)-led jam ensued and went back to the "Since the end is never told" verse. This quickly melted into Phil's Dark Star intro.
The jam before the 1st verse of Dark Star is what it is all about. Absolutely fucking perfect. Only 5-7 minutes Id guess, but pure bliss. I wont bother to describe it. Dark Star got up tempo after the verse and led into Drums.
Billy took the first solo and then got up to fuck around behind the kits. There was some prerecorded stuff going on which they played off of for a while before Mickey began a little rock star action (hit the drum, point to the crowd, hit the drum, point to the crowd...) Overall an excellent drums segment with plenty of wierdness.
Space was very short and almost immediately led into a PLQ style up tempo Terrapin jam. Phil kept looking back to see if the drummers were beck yet. They barely had time to take a leak. It really wasnt space for more than a few minutes. As soon as Mickey sat down, it was "Inspiration, move me brightly."
Terrapin finshed well (I did miss the screamed "Terrapin!" between "I cant figure out/If it's an end or begining.....) The ensuing jam was short and stayed close to the theme but pounded along nicely.
Phil started Dark Star back up but an awkward tempo shift cost a bit of momentum. The return to Dark Star was solid but paled to the earlier jam. I did enjoy the new vocal jam at the end. Phil, Bob, and Jeff took the words "Transative nightfall of diamonds" and did to them essentially what they do with "Nothings gonna bring him back" at the end of He's Gone. The instruments stopped and vocal jam floated away as they left the stage.
Phil came out and told a story about his son Grahams first Kaiser expereince (New Years 86) when he was 3 weeks old. The band sang Happy Birthday and went into Touch.
Though about my least favorite dead tune, I'll give em this one. It was very well played with Bob and Jeff trading verses, and came complete with a false ending ala Lovelight.
Bobby: "Goodnight"
Phil: "See you on New Years"
Mickey: "This is the end of the tour. Youve been a great audience and we've been a great band. Thanks."
Billy: "Thanks all. Oooh a microphone. Looky its a microphone. Thanks."

All in all an excellent concert. Certainly the closest to the Dead of all the post Garcia incarnations. What it lacked in flat out Jams (PLQ) and vocal power (Warren), it made up for in comfortable familiarity (Bobby singing Bobby tunes) and the greatest rythm section in rock history. Its tough to compare the power of this group in the Kaiser with say the power of PLQ in the Maritime or the Warfield or the Beacon.
Would I tour with this band? No. Would I see them a couple times a year. Absolutely. For all the bashing Bobby gets, we're still DeadHeads. And for me that means Id rather hear Bobby sing The Other One than anybody else.
Just dont cut off Estimated so damn quickly.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By lance robinson (Leftymalone) (66.215.59.142) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 01:53 pm: Edit Post

Well I just wanted to say fare you well to my new east coast zoners!!!! Thanks for everything. LOST SAILOR KICKED ASS!!!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean (Deano) (68.85.82.149) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 01:56 pm: Edit Post

Never forget the PLQ Party at the Maritime in February couple years back ,great time. Glad to see the Kaiser rocked last night.

Break out some boards of this run please Gents!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Zink Zincley (Cozmikzink) (216.175.117.187) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 02:12 pm: Edit Post

DOOOOOOOOOOD! Dat shit was da bomb. Nice to meet some Zoners (Wino....from NAPA VALLEY!! I GET IT....WINE-O!!!, G-Dad, Philmeup, etc..).

What a show.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By J_A_C_K (J_A_C_K) (12.233.46.222) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 02:28 pm: Edit Post

I have a problem reviewing this show. I used up all my superlatives on last night's show, and so find it hard to express that it was even better than the night before. Oh well.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By centrify (Centrify) (216.38.138.218) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 02:42 pm: Edit Post

Two noteworthy song details:

Good Lovin: Well, you know how these days they've been opening this with the old-school groove before it kicks into the Good Lovin that we all know and love. Last night, they took that groove and repeated it at the end of the song, extending it into a 5 minute jam just rockin on it. Don't know about you, but I've always LOVED that opening beat (a la Princeton '71), and now they've evolved it into a whole new wonderful jam.

Estimated: The TONE of this on 12/6 was so...lush. The guitar was very smokey and sultry, waaay more than usual (maybe some more distortion in the mix?). Anyway, it just turned the song into a dark, underwater jam that just dripped. In a good way.... (No, no hard drugs last night :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By wino (Carl) (68.128.54.160) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 02:45 pm: Edit Post

Wish I had time to elaberate on last night ...
They ROCKED the house!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lord Henry (Terrapindew) (209.86.5.150) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 03:09 pm: Edit Post

Rocked the House was right, the vibe was there! The Spirit of the Grateful Dead lives keeps truckin on.
Hes Gone was really a highlight, the end vocal jam went on for quite some time, beautifully harmonized. Dark Star Terrapin sandwhich!!! Then ended the show with dark star!! it ended with a vocal jam, nightfall of diamonds, nightfall of diamonds....nightfall of diamonds, over and over..now thats improv!
Thank You for a real goooood time!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By EssEphReek (Essephreek) (64.172.58.166) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 03:34 pm: Edit Post

Yep, I gotta agree -- great show! Too bad they obviously observed a strict must-allow-everyone-to-catch-BART-curfew. Of course I shouldn't complain about that, since I'm one of the ones that has to do just that. Still, the ending felt a bit cut off; I'd like to have seen how much longer they might have gone on, if they could have. Quite a contrast to the night before, when Phil and Bob both seemed like they just wanted to get out of there as fast as they could after it was over...

Btw, if my research on setlist.com is right, it was only the second He's Gone for Phil, since Jerry's demise, the other being with David Gans & Broken Angels way back in '97, before there was even a Phil & Friends.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By iannai (Mule) (66.81.145.45) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 03:47 pm: Edit Post

Rocked the house indeed....

The Terrapin>Dark Star>Drums/Space>Terrapin>Dark Star was the highlight to rule all highlights, I'm anxious as hell to hear the discs of that bit...the light/slide show was tripindicular, freaky fabulous, meltingly majestic, drippingly dynamic, pulsatingly perfect...sound was decent from my spot (just on the left of the Soundboard) but I still thought the mix was a bit poor, the guitars were real "muddy" in the middle, Phil may have been a bit too loud, but compared to other Kaiser shows I've seen the sound was better than average, and shit, it was friggin' loud, and that's what really counts...the Drums were a monstrosity of double bass madness...very cool...Billy took a nice solo where Mickey just backed off and let him shine for a while...then Mickey had to ham it up a bit himself, (side note: who was Mickey motioning to during the first few minutes of drums to come up and play with him...Phil I assume?)

Hunter's set...I've seen him several times, but not in a few years. I thought his performance was really weird, I swear he was heavily tanked or something...he played/sang all the tunes with a real minor key feeling...last time I saw him he strummed the shit out of a twelve string and belted out his tunes, last night his voice was very strained (kept cracking on the high notes, like a mix between an alley cat and Tom Waits) and his playing sounded really out of tune at times...during Cats he kept going for this horrible solo slide sound that was painful to hear...the guys got balls no doubt, and the songs are his to sing as he pleases, but I've seen him do much better...just my opinion.

Then there's the second set...the He's Gone>Lazy Lightning was well played...Jimmy was doing a beatiful job all night. I'm a big fan of his playing ability, but he does need to broaden his tone some...I'll have to agree that he never plays anything above the 3rd fret, 70 percent of the stuff is above the 7th..so his leads sometimes lack the variation that is so nice when he and Warren play off/with/counter-balance each other...his leads in Dark Star were very cool...

Phil told a quick story about his son Graham right before the encore... Graham was only three weeks old when the Dead played the Kaiser on New Years eve 1986...Graham was up in the dressing room that night with Phil when an old beat poet friend of his (forget his name) came up to see Phil's new son...aparently this guy walked in the room, mistook a pile of t-shirts on the couch as Graham, and said to Phil, "Looks just like ya Lesh!" ...then turned and walked out. It was very touching to see Phil make such a cool fatherly gesture to Graham last night announcing that it was his 16th birthday, Graham was standing just offstage with a group of friends, probably embarrassed as hell...when uncle Bobby and gang (not to mention the whole audience) launch into a happy birthday>Touch of Grey closer...a perfect upbeat, high energy way to finish the night...

Folks were whooping and hollering as they walked out into the cool Oakland night...this was one of the best post Dead peformances (any combination) I've seen to date.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tom heckley (Hecklto) (67.120.86.168) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 04:19 pm: Edit Post

Damn, maybe I should have gone to the show, but I did have fun in the park with all the wookies (Kenny, Kelly, Chris) before hand.

Karate High School kicked ass


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bucky (Bucky) (130.132.243.50) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 04:45 pm: Edit Post

>>>>Looked to me like Rob left for Lost Sailor

I have just developed a new, higher level of respect for Rob.......

Rob - YOU THE MAN! :)

Actually, he prolly just moved to play the set-up in the back.

Scalia, good review.
See you NYE?
PS: You're lucky I lost that game by one point 2 weeks ago & will miss the playoffs.

BTW, to the fellow who said the vocal ending to Dark Star was 'improv', they've been doing that EVERY time since Alpine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scalia (Scalia) (67.120.87.2) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 05:20 pm: Edit Post

>>Scalia, good review.
See you NYE?
PS: You're lucky I lost that game by one point 2 weeks ago & will miss the playoffs.

Thx. No NYE this year. After the last two, we're going to play in the snow at June Lake. Just south of Yosemite.
And yer not dead yet. Just need a win and a Cryp loss by my calcs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bucky (Bucky) (130.132.243.50) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 05:32 pm: Edit Post

actually, the way you've been going, you're the odds on favorite to win.

I'd take Martin with Rich Gannon 2nd.

It would be funny if Cryp wins - he hasn't looked at the League once since opening day.... :)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 024 (Deadicatedmamma) (68.117.32.113) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 05:42 pm: Edit Post

>>Phil, Bob, and Jeff took the words "Transative nightfall of diamonds" and did to them essentially what they do with "Nothings gonna bring him back" at the end of He's Gone. The instruments stopped and vocal jam floated away as they left the stage.

Excellent review Scalia! You describe the show in a way that is easy to visualize. Thanks!

>>All in all an excellent concert. Certainly the closest to the Dead of all the post Garcia incarnations.

Right on the money..


>>this was one of the best post Dead peformances (any combination) I've seen to date.

Jannai, it's nice to see others on the same wavelength. :*)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alexw (Alexw) (209.244.98.248) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 06:21 pm: Edit Post

All I can say was this show was AWESOME. The previous review saying Bobby stole the first set is right on! The sound seemed great last night (of course I was much closer to stage, but it was definitely much cleaner), and Bob was even clear and sounded great. Other than one foul-up on the Good Lovin' (I think), don't know if he made any other real mistakes. He and Phil looked in sync last night, and Phil looked like he was having a blast!

Highlights: You know I was actually gonna mention some, but then realized that 90% of the show was the highlight - oh, well:
Actually dug the Lost Sailor>St. (which I was never totally gonzo for)
Cumberland ripped
Estimated was great (Jimmy - vary your tones a little more - even though the envelope is signature Jerry, you can use more wild tones once in a while - clean is great, but so's dirty!)
even enjoyed Only the Strange (the Mickey stuff that wasn't done by the Dead is better than those that were).

2nd Set:
He's Gone (totally sweet, everyone involved)
Lazy>Supplication (it's been a while for this one - always liked it a lot) - a really good jam tune for Jimmy, and it rocked and spaced
Mountains o' the Moon - I love the way P&F do this, love Phil's vocals on this (sounded as good as I've ever heard him sing) - unfortunately had a raucous group behind me for this one, but...
UJB - heard it comin', and it didn't disappoint
Terrapin - started great, but Phil's screw-up of verses threw off the whole middle of the song, and then noone seemed to know how to salvage it - too bad Bobby couldn't lead them off into the right part (does he still remember this tune?), and Jimmy certainly can't be expected to - though he actually seemed the most aware of the problem -Phil seemed to realize right after he did it, but didn't seem to be able to get everyone on the right track (it'll be the only part of this show that I won't really care for on disc - but so what!)...
Dark Star - how can you complain, and the lights and everything were beautiful (great way to salvage previous tune)...
Drums - Bill was hot - when Mickey just let him play alone for a bit, he should've gone on for another 5 minutes - sounded like '72-74, the guy still has it!!! (was there ever a question?)...
They salvaged the Terrapin Station, and then, of course, finished up Dark Star (gotta love it!).

Already 11:55, Phil made his announcement of his son Graham's birthday (thanks Graham for getting Phil to start playing Unbroken again! - Phil told me this at a blood drive - and thanks Phil for playing it again!!!)...
Finally, Touch of Grey - nothing too unexpected, but this was sweet and really sealed the deal of the evening's feeling of it being like old times. The place was rockin'!!!

Great Show!!

Can't wait for NYE!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lord Henry (Terrapindew) (65.104.43.162) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 08:43 pm: Edit Post

Yeah! im still psyched from the show!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Still Dead (Mikeyv) (12.232.141.74) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 08:49 pm: Edit Post

WOW! That's the stuff....

Our buddy Molo was out in front of the Marriot at 7:50 am Saturday morning. I introduced myself and we chatted. He said he drove up from LA to check out the show. He's a really nice dude, it made my weekend, well that plus the killer shows.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By scott (Magnetosphere) (68.22.177.29) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 10:20 pm: Edit Post

Did Kreutzmann really do the "looky looky a microphone" thing somebody mentioned?

That's pretty hilarious if he did. While I've always edmired Mickey's overall enthusiasm, his recent verbal ebullience has proven to be quite a contrast to the three decades of stoic\wordless presence the Rhythm Devils provided in the GD days.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Funkyriddims (Funkyriddims) (24.127.3.170) on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 11:51 pm: Edit Post

Just got home from two nights at the Kaiser, WOW! Friday nights show was solid, rock solid from beginning to end. The crew was doing a lot of last second tune ups with equipment preshow to make sure everything was perfect. Didnt want to have sound problems like the night before!
Opened the show with a Stellar Good Lovin complete with the old intro from the 70's very tight. The boys seemed to be determined to nail it tonight(It was a B-Day show afterall!)Bob seemed to be doing a lot of "directing" all night(and last night too) I found it was best to not watch what he was doing and just LISTEN. Sometimes Bob gets impatient with the jams and decides he has to go in to the next song like right now. I remember him doing that with the Dead too.
Tennessee Jed lived up to every expectation I could have had for this song, Jimmy F***in nailed it! Bob not to be out done then led the band through some incredibly tight, psychadelic versions of Lost Sailor and St of Circumstance. Great stuff. Next came ONLY THE STRANGE REMAIN with Mickey at the vocals. Not exactly MY favorite tune but I liked this version, nice jamming by the band and I liked Rob and Phil on the background vocals gave it a very cool, funky feal. It was about then that we all knew the night was heading for deep space.....
A KILLER intro in to Cumberland and whammo!
I CANT STAY MUCH LONGER MELINDA, THE SUN IS GETTING HIGH!!!!!!!!!!
Jimmy was not holding anything back now and it was working. Bob then led the guys in to ESTIMATED PROPHET, Jimmy really doing justice to a very stoney Dead classic.Bob stretching the vocals out on this song now, kind of like how they are doing THE OTHER ONE lately.
But that wasnt enough, no, no........
THIS OLD ENGINE, MAKES IT ON TIME!!!!!!!!!
A old style sing along, the way it should be. Finished the First set strong and we were almost glad the band took a break because we're working as hard as the band out here, incredibly HOT inside the Kaiser both nights.
Robert Hunter played a cool set, I dont remeber it all but he did do DAYS BETWEEN and DEAL, very nice. Hunter adds a certain authenticity to the whole thing that some people didnt seem to get. Time to absorb the roots of the Grateful Dead and PUFF.
(TOO was better 2nd night but I thought Hunters set was way better 1st night. 1st night he did MISSION IN THE RAIN, LAZY RIVER ROAD, EASY WIND, MR CHARLIE, RIPPLE!!!)
Second set was pulled off with a pace and force that made me want to go on tour, thats all there is too it. Many people are very critical in these discussions but not about this show!.
Friday nights second set kicked ass!
UNCLE JOHNS BAND>TERRAPIN>DARK STAR>TERRAPIN>DARK STAR!!!!!
Deep Space Overdrive, Full Cosmic Exploration, the way that only thes guys can do it. And no, I was not tripping(either night).
Lets hope they decide to do another tour because THE OTHER ONES are everything I(and probably you too) was hoping they would be.
Cant wait to get copies of this show!
http://db.etree.org/funkyriddims


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:)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By lance robinson (Leftymalone) (24.205.246.92) on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 12:44 pm: Edit Post

I agree during Lost Sailor I looked back to my long time show goer "the Beagle" and said this is the MOST deadlike I've ever heard the band play!!!!!! Everything just clicked . In one word EPIC!!!! I think after the confo we had with Bobby about the show sucking...They decided to turn it up a notch... What happened was incredible!!!! Kelly said it right...If they keep playing like that the stadium shows are just around the corner.... I wonder what Bobby would say about Fridays show??????????? To bad POPI was sitting on his couch like rev said"armchair quarterback!!!!" cause i wouldn't wanted to miss that show for the world!!!! That was "THE LIFE"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Babs (Sistermoon) (216.249.75.87) on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 01:28 pm: Edit Post

Very interesting shows! Thank you, TOO, for a real good time. If anything was less than "perfect", hey we're all human. Musical evolution is a good thing. The wheel keeps turning....

I wanted to make a comment about security and the constant changing of what was allowed inside and what was not. I knew not to bring a backpack, because last year at NYE at the HJK they weren't allowing them in. This time I brought a leather purse that is very similar to a backpack, but within the "allowable" category.

I wish TOO had said something on the printed enclosure that was sent with the tickets, or on a website or sent via email. We always get in line early, up near the front. The verbal directives began with "no backpacks", and two hastily handprinted signs were taped to the outside of the building. After awhile, security came by and said "no blankets" would be allowed in. We are all long-time veterans of the scene. Everyone looked at each other incredulously, like WTF? The security ladies told us that the band had met and decided these things, and they were just informing us. I don't know if that is true or not.

Then when the doors were opening, we were told, "have your backpacks open". People are responding, "what backpacks?" It was confusing. Blankets and backpacks were evident inside.

Friday night we were told "no umbrellas". It didn't rain as bad as last year's NYE, but if you didn't have a poncho or umbrella, you were getting pretty wet. So we stashed our umbrella in the bushes and it was there when we got out. You could hurt somebody with an umbrella, so I totally understand the safety precaution.

Best new bumper sticker seen: "You don't need a miracle. You need $42.50."

SisterMoon, New Jersey transplant to California


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By phil h (A_Username) (12.236.204.19) on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 01:37 pm: Edit Post

Hey now -

I am working today on 12/5 & 6 shns for bittorrent redistribution, if all goes well by tonight - the site will be http://rosemary.dyndns.org

And fwiw, the setlist has supplication when in fact this was only a supplication jam. no "dizzy ain't the word for the way you're making me feel now", etc.

7/5/2 was the highlight of the year for me until these two shows. These guys got chemistry. Incredible. Energy and then some. Dizzy really isn't the word...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By iannai (Mule) (66.81.151.188) on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 02:25 pm: Edit Post

>Best new bumper sticker seen: "You don't need a miracle. You need $42.50."

now that's good....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Walstib (Walstib) (24.124.48.226) on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 02:34 pm: Edit Post

I need ....one of those stickers!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dewit (Dewit) (67.82.70.79) on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 03:20 pm: Edit Post

A very special zoner gifted me with one of those just a few shows ago...MSG. IF I ever get my car washed, its been weeks, then that thing is going tailight center. Thanks dude.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bucky (Bucky) (130.132.243.120) on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 03:47 pm: Edit Post

I want a sticker too.... :)

>>>>I agree during Lost Sailor I looked back to my long time show goer "the Beagle" and said this is the MOST deadlike I've ever heard the band play!!!!!! Everything just clicked . In one word EPIC!!!!

Talk about an oxymoron:
Lost Sailor & epic.
That's like 'Great Tasting' & 'Dog Crap'.


>>>>Sometimes Bob gets impatient with the jams and decides he has to go in to the next song like right now. I remember him doing that with the Dead too.

7-10-81:
They're in the Playin Reprise, ready to go into The Wheel, & 5 seconds before the Playin' Reprise ends, Bob just starts Around & Around..... :(


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