I just had to say that the crowd was the worst i have ever been around.I would like to say it was all the young people,but it was not.I would like to say to say it was the Allman Bros.fans,but it was not.It was everybody.From the natty dread to the local high school kids,everybody seemed as if they were to busy for a show.While Phil and the boys put out another wonderful show,the crowd didn't seem to deserve some of the beautiful treats they were given.It seems to me that a lot of people in the crowd are not happy just being at a show,they want to be part of the show.X was everywhere.It seemed like the crowd was all about"me".Something I truely loved about going to a Dead show,or now Phil shows is the "us" vibe.I have been to several shows this year and this was the only one that was this bad.I would like to thank the boys for another fine effort.Come on folks,lets just love and help each other........

I hate to be combative Vince....but I beg to differ! The whole scene was very loving and peaceful. A brother helped me out, I ran into some good friends unexpectidly, and was hanging with other friends I haven't seen in a while. There were a lot of older "heads" around us that were just loving the show! The parking lot around us was very mellow and people seemed to be hyped about the show. Strangers stopping strangers just to shake their hands....truly that was the vibe I got. I'm sorry your show was not all that you wanted it to be.

The show and the crowd were fine. Lots of people with lots of smiles. The Allman Brothers were tight and professional. The PLQ was otherworldly. I'm off to Atlanta.

Just got back from Charlotte and I feel blessed because of what I got to see yesterday.

The crowd was great, except for a few frat boy types sitting by us in the bleachers who were making cat-calls to all the beautiful women walking by.I mean, come on, relax boys.

This was my third P & F show, and each one has been better and better. These guys continue to exceed my expectations. Warren on Dear Mr. Fantasy was truly magical, then Rob did an excellent vocal performance on BEW. I was so happy when Unbroken Chain came on, Phil poured his soul into every line.Stella Blue was very well done, but for me no one can do it like Jerry. St. Stephen -> 11 -> St. what can I say? I was in a trance. The Inspiration Jam was nice, it would sound like Terrapin, drift off, then come back. A nice little treat.

Great place for a show. The big-screens gave everyone in the lawn a front row seat. I liked being able to watch from a distance, then checking the monitor to see the guys' smiling at jamming.

In short, everyone was dead on. Warren and Jimmy just let their guitars talk to each other. Rob was great in his vocal roles, and very impressive on the keys. John did a great job, I always feel bad for him, playing with these guys you never know what to expect! Phil was outstanding, no words can do justice to what he has done and contiues to do, show after show.

Thank You!

What a show!! I loved every second. This was the closest to a dead show yet!! The songs morphed into each other very well, especially the Stella Blue. That was definately worth the admission price. Cant wait to see PnF again next time. I hope maybe the south will get some more dates besides charlotte and atlanta. I seen PnF in Baltimore a couple of years ago opening for dylan, and this blew that show away. Warren Haynes is the bomb. Jerry has got to be sittin in heaven dancin his ass off last night. Did anybody catch the moon coming up over the ampitheatre last night during Unbroken Chain. Now about the scene, it was a typical scene nowadays. You can think all the "kidz" for that. You dont walk by cops with bowls up in the air and not expect them to say something. Every time I come to Charlotte I know what to expect. Its like a free for all for some of these "kidz" It makes you wish that Phish was playing somewhere so that you wouldnt have all these x heads instead of dead heads.

>>It makes you wish that Phish was playing somewhere so that you wouldnt have all these x heads instead of dead heads.<<

x vibe vs. lsd vibe...now there's a tangible difference...

It seems to me that the x scene might be a part of the problem? Just putting that out there...

Nah, MDMA has been around since the 60s...It's the self-centered kids who are scoring the X...Me Me Me...

Just wanted to toss my opinion in here about this. The venue absolutely sucks. The $3 bottles of water and the denial of bringing in a container, but that is par for the course at any corporate sponsored place I guess. Still don't like it though. I was pleased with the Allmans. Hadn't seen them since 96 and hadn't seen Derek Trucks play since he was 14, so that was a treat. The real goods for me came when Phil and the boys came out and proceded to blow me away again. The Unbroken was totally unexpected for me and that made it all that much better. Phil poured his heart into it and his vocals were flawless, as far as I could hear. I stood there and openly wept as the joy poured over me. I got that same tingly sensation when I heard the opening that I had in Charlotte in 95 when I first heard it, but I have to say that I was really blown away with it this time. I laughed and I cried almost simultaneously through the whole song. The rest of the set was glorious as well. I had been eager to hear the Golden Road and I finally got it. The fact that it came after St Stephen>the 11>St Stephen>Terrapin(partly) was just the icing on the cake for me. I hope everybody had as much fun as I did. The crowd scene was nice and mellow from my look on it. I've gotta say that I've never seen so many cell phones in operation in one place before. I guess it's only fitting since we were in Verizon Wireless Amp.

Yo just got back from Raleigh>Atlanta, I have a take on the scene at ABB/Phil, wanna hear it? The environment, was a very strong factor for me; it being conducive to having an awesome time or a crap-ass time. Raleigh scene was mellow laid back and very loving, yeah some heads got hassled for vending, but all and all a total fabulous crowd...the music ohhhh, from Shakedown to Scarlet Begonias what a ride, The Allmans really played a hot one too!
Atlanta... what a role reversal, We get in town have major troubles parking, show seemed to me to be way over sold, like lawn seats... and don't even let me get into the ugly bathroom accomodation (or lack there of). Some may say Wow dude , you must have had a bad trip or somethin'.and yeah I would have to say so. I was so brought down by the feed my face mentality,waste spewn everywhere and anywhere. Someone mentioned to me remember that commercial with the Indian and the one tear he shed. There was much white jack that has just forgotten reverence for ourselves, others and our surroundings.There were definitely cool folk inside and out, but the general vibe seemed somewhat plastic and frenzied. I too, felt this as an imposing force, and yes I walked out. I can't believe I drove 12-14 hrs, and then 10 hrs home to walk out of the gates Maybe half way into the festivities, Even missed my favorite, Mtn Jam.
Peace
Phil, Derek, Warren, Rob, Greg,Otiel,John, Butch and Jamoie Keep up the fantastic music,I love you all, and I have hopes for future scenes with more heart.

YOU WALKED OUT ON THE ALLMAN BROS WHAT A SUPRISE
WONDER WHY THE DEAD NEVER PLAYED WITH THEM AFTER RFK 73 APPLES AND ORANGES
HUNTER,BARLOWE,KESEY GET THE PICTURE

Not to change your opinion, just facts-
After RFK 6/73 was Watkin Glenn 7/73 (w/GD+ABB+Band). Final Watkins JAM included JG+BW doing Mountain Jam w/DBetts (and more).

I thought the crowd in Charlotte was great, definately more high energy that VB or Raleigh, and the band could sense that. Phil says crowd energy plays a major factor in the music, and I believe it. Charlotte was an AWESOME show, and the crowd had alot to do with that....

Anyone that can complain about Charlotte can find fault with free water in a desert. Old heads have to realize that the times are a changing and I being in my mid twenties found that the younger people at the venue were more generous than the older folks. One fellow wouldn't even give me a sip of his water why a young fellow gave me a drink of his chilly water (shine for all y'all yankees out there). The crowd was singing along smiles everywhere, kwitchyerbellyaching and just be glad that you made it. Besides Panic, Phil is the only other band I go to see because rock and roll without soul is just Top 40 radio crap!

I had no more problems with the crowd than any saturday night in a high population area....maybe I was lucky and picked the right spot to hang. Great show....never thought I'd be enthralled by Stella again, but Warren pulled it off. His singing was really in the pocket all night...I sometimes think they are too quick to take certain songs into the reggae/calypso zone, and they almost did it w/ Mr Fantasy but for Warren's singing. The terrapin thing was ROCKIN'...now that's southern rock, boys and girls. Glad I made it for this one. Yes, a mellow show in a rural area is always best, but Saturday night is what it is.

Yes, the show is over and you're looking at your computer. It must be time for Redneck's review. Set out from St. Pete for Charlotte a day early to score a hotey and chill in the AC. Drive was long and boring, driving a #4^T>x8 (make deleted to confuse law enforcement) smoking kif joints and listening to some killer boots that I had not heard. Ten hours of seamless music. Very nice. With me on this trip is Allen Keeler (* = name changed to avoid libel suit)and his quiet friend J. Roller *. Allen and J. have seen several shows, but I have yet to see the Bomb Dropper in his latest endeavor. I had all intentions of meeting up with Zoners, but it's funny how things never go as planned and that's just exactly perfect, maybe next time. However, ran into VERY old friends at show like Strider Dragonfly(*) and Traveler Rockclimber(*), who provided two hours of catching up and tale-telling in the finest lot tradition, as well as hooking up with homegrown, organic tomatoes and some Nugs as well. Nothing like meeting up with the old school and getting back to basics with the ones you love. Anyway, the reunion ruined any chance to see Susan open, but what I heard from the lot was cool.Got in in time to scope the seats and prepare ;)-~ Listened to the Allmans from the Lawn. Good stuff. They served up a fine helping of that Southern stuff I need so bad and ended it up with some nice grits to boot. "Nuff said.

Redneck's review part II
After pre-set preliminaries, Phil came out with the boys and set right into a Jam. Wow. That's all I could say about that, you understand, I felt like somebody done dropped me off the dock and into the water as the long dormant nerve endings in my spinal column began bristling for the first time in years. Antenae were up and we wove on into - DMF - In case you didn't know, Warren kicks ass singing this song. Real feeling, had me smiling and dancing. This also wound into a Jam and there I was floating above the crowd in Satori-like consciousness, all time and peripheral sounds dropped away and I was one with the music and dancing with wild abandon and BOOM we got BEW. Rob does a grrrrrreat job singing this and fun was had by all. One note about the next song. My last Unbroken was in '95 in Tampa. I was with Strider. Somehow fate dealt us the irony card as we exchanged surprised looks and then knowing smiles while Phil poured nectar from the grail and re-nourished me with goodness. And biscuits. Next we floated into wha sounded to me like a Spanish style Jam. Damn good stuff, but the people next to me were starting to complain that I was floating over the crowd too long and why I wouldn't sell them what I had and I told them they already bought it - the ticket.Brought me in soft with one of my all time favorite Beatles songs She said. I'm LOVIN' it now, man, I got enough smiles for all the lonely people man I AM BODHISATTVA !!! YEAHHHHHHHH !!!! Slowly I realise that I'm touching the ground once again and Warren is singing Stella in such a way. Such a way. Hmmmmm. Nice stuff. Real close to a tear jerker, but I held out and when the band played St. Stephen it was all WOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHHHH ! Back up above the crowd, beyond the crowd, I'm over the crowd and Phil is doing these things and sounds are coming out and it FOCKING BEAUTIFUL !!!Once again, fate dealt me and Strider the irony hand by pulling out Terrapin Station. More knowing glances and smiles.Expect the unexpected. Me, by this point, I'm as happy as a camper can be. Shit I could live on the lawn, just pick up my tent and piece of sod and off to the next show I go. Golden Road was beating a dead horse named JAM. I did every dance I know and then copied some I didn't know and then just made up the funkiest, badass moves that Travolta would die for, but as usual, the moves are left in the venue, for the next patron.The Encore was one big smiling affair as I heard Patchwork for the first time (Killer tune Warren, you ROCK !!) and Heard Blue Skies for th third time in a year, first two being Dickey Betts Band. This band ROCKED BLUE SKY,SORRY DICKIE,I STILL THINK YOU'RECOOL,BUT FACE IT BRO)That was the end. I've been looking for my face, but I think it's hiding on me.In the lots some people kept asking me for LSD. I need a sign that says I NO LONGER DO LSD,THANK YOU. No offense, but I just got sick of being asked. That and the next time some lame dick asks me if I have "his Pharmies" I will not hesitate to knock you the fuck out, cause that would be the most compassionate thing I could do.Also, one word on the scene in Charlotte - PIGSTY !!! Clean up your damn mess, you lame asses !! Most of the idiots were folks who did NOT have a ticket. I actually heard some bragging about not having a ticket. All I can say is your life must suck if hanging out ina parking lot is that cool for you. Musically, this was one of the best shows I've ever seen, Dead included. Argue if you want, but despite earlier angry remarks, made with a smile, I'm full of love at this time and it'll take a lot more than you got to make me anything but happy for several weeks, THANKS PHIL !!! :)

One thing I haven't seen mentioned about this show...Carl Riddle, late of Marshall Tucker, sat in on drums for the whole Allmans set. Yee-haw.

Just a note to thank Redneck for a tremendous review. It was written soooooo well that I re-lived my show at Deer Creek. I've just been listening to 4/20/01 and it's a flippin monster. These guys (PLQ) are da shit.
dyerwolf

CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME???? I was absolutely floored by Warren Haynes singing "She Said". Is that a Dead song, if so what other studio/live CD's does it appear on? If it is a cover, who did the original? What an awesome song. The Charlotte show was 100 times better than the April show. P&F only played one set, but it was unbelievable. Earlier in April, Warren was too dominant, too loud and too much slide. You couldn't even hear Herring. This time, Warren was laid back, sang beautifully and just absolutely breathed with the others in the jam. It was like Jimmy and Warren were speaking to eachother - and having fun. A religious experience. Unbelievable. I could have watched 24 straight hours of just the jams.

Beatles, Andy

SHE SAID, SHE SAID
By John Lennon and Paul McCartney


SHE SAID,
"I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE DEAD,
I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE SAD."
AND SHE'S MAKING ME FEEL LIKE I'VE NEVER BEEN BORN.

I SAID,
"WHO PUT ALL THOSE THINGS IN YOUR HEAD,
THINGS THAT MAKE ME FEEL THAT I'M MAD?
AND YOU'RE MAKING ME FEEL LIKE I'VE NEVER BEEN BORN."

SHE SAID,
"YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID."
I SAID, "NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE WRONG,
WHEN I WAS A BOY
EV´RYTHING WAS RIGHT,
EV´RYTHING WAS RIGHT."

I SAID,
"EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW,
I KNOW THAT I'M READY TO LEAVE,
'CAUSE YOU'RE MAKING ME FEEL LIKE I'VE NEVER BEEN BORN."

SHE SAID,
"YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID."
I SAID, "NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE WRONG,
WHEN I WAS A BOY
EV´RYTHING WAS RIGHT,
EV´RYTHING WAS RIGHT."

I SAID,
"EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW,
I KNOW THAT I'M READY TO LEAVE,
'CAUSE YOU'RE MAKING ME FEEL LIKE I'VE NEVER BEEN BORN."

SHE SAID, (she said)
"I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE DEAD."
("I know what it's like to be dead")
"I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE SAD."
("I know what its like to be sad")
"I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE DEAD."
("I know what it's like to be dead")

Isn't that song based on a "first time" LSD experience?

Yeah, with Peter Fonda

Just to make it clear Phil busted into the spanish style jam of Terrapin Station right out of st.stephen. In no way was it an Inspiration Jam. Phil did the spanish style then busted into the full lyrics to Terrapin Station. "I can't figure out, if it's the end or beginning."
Just to clear the air here, I was in charlotte and atlanta and charlotte's scene was much more kind than Atlanta's. Atlanta had some of the shadiest kids I've ever seen busting rap and techno like it was a Phish lot. Many of the people in Atlanta seemed like tour rats from Phish since they are on haitus(Let it be known that I do not dislike Phish). Just not a cool scene and to agree with Mike V. the show in ATL seemed way oversold, which surprised me seeing how the venue holds 20,000. Anyway Phil did bust out in ATL but Charlotte was special, great setlist selection and oh yeah the Allman's played Liz Reed>Drums>Bass solo>Liz Reed. Jimmy took the complete lead on BEW and was much more in the mix than I have ever heard him. Warren was fantastic, Rob shined, Molo held the true groove, anb Phil is well... PHIL. Thanks so much to both bands but especialy the boys, Rob, Phil, Molo, Jimbo, and Warren. I was truly touched this weekend spiritually and it is all because of this band that makes fantastic music. "If you get confused, listen to the music play."

I believe that it was not John's first trip. I believe I read or heard somewhere that George and John did LSD for the first time at a dentist's house in England and thereby the song Dr. Robert covers that experience. She Said was written about tripping with Peter Fonda (who kept relating the details of a near death experience, much to John's annoyance) and others at a house outside of LA just after the Beatles had finished their next to last US tour. Not their first trip, but a very interesting one. Although I'm not a Beatle and cannot verify this info, but from published items I've read by the various Beatles this is what I've come up with.

Thanks for all the wonderful words on Charlotte, Redneck. It was a fantastic scene there, and I found the sound unusually clear and could feel it vibrating my whole body without any ringing ears afterwards. Every song was well played and the interplay between Jimmy and Warren was one of the best I saw of Five on this tour. Can't wait for the next one. They kind of spoil other shows for a while afterwards cause nothing can compare. That was true for sure in the spring for the Dire Straits show right after DAR Phil. I was bored with the music and the sound.

I hate to disagree with Mr. Burger, but the 420 show was so far superior to 8-04 that it wasnt even in the same universe. Dont get me wrong, the 8-04 show was amazing, which just shows how good 420 was. Phil obviously thought 420 was wicked as he released the chunky boards of that jewel. I would be pleasantly suprised if he releases 8-04. IMHO. Have a nice remainder of the summer and see everyone on fall tour.

>>>Phil obviously thought 420 was wicked as he released the chunky boards of that jewel.

AMEN, sister!!!

I'm making copies of this bad boy right now...hard to go about your day when ya gotta stop & dance every few minutes!!!

Burger- What Bizzaro universe do you see those 2 shows from?

There is NO way that 8/4 even comes close to 420!
Bust out Rainy Day Woman, Blues for Allah, & And It Stoned Me, just to start, ......

-Folks we need an intervention, we have a crack victim on our hands-

Tapecat, don't forget the Wharf Rat -> GDTRFB and the SMoking Help->Slip->Walrus!->Frank. That was one of the best times I've ever had.

I was at both Charlotte shows, and I have to agree with Tapecat. Don't get me wrong, 8/4 was kickass, and probably had a better lot scene, but 4/20 has to be one of, if not THE, best Phil & Friends shows ever.

Sorry guys - I must put my comments in perspective about the 4/20 show. I'm a newbie. I had never been to a Dead show, a P&F show or anything like it up until that point. I came to the Dead and to Phil through Jimmy Herring and Warren Haynes. To make a long story short, the HORDE tour in the early 90's that had ARU, Bela Fleck, Blues Traveler, Widespread, etc. got me into Herring. I followed him through bands to Jazz Is Dead and was never interested in the Dead or Phil until I heard Herring was playing with Phil.

This has opened me up to the Dead and Phil, and my understanding for the tunes and the scene in general increases now almost daily. As I find the money, I purchase the Dead's back catalog of CD's (it's hard to find out where to start, but I chose Dick's Picks because I prefer the live stuff). All this listening has struck me like a thunderbolt and makes me lament not appreciating this music when it was being performed around me for all those years.

In the end, I probably didn't like the 4/20 show as much because A)i was not as familiar with the tunes and B) i was earlier on in my learning curve with the scene in general and with the Dead's music. If I heard that show today, I trust you guys with more experience - I would probably get it now. In fact I wish there was a way to go back and revisit the moment to see if that would be the case. Didn't mean to offend. I'm in awe of the stuff I am discovering.

If anybody has any tips on where to start with the Dead, I'd be appreciative. I have DP #8,9,11 & 12 American Beauty, Hundred Year Hall, the one from the Knick, but that's it for now.

I've also got a CDR copy of the 4/22 (I think) Beacon show with Branford sitting in and with Herring and Pevar on guitar. I listen to that daily now.

Peace. You guys are the experts.

AB

sent you an e-mail, burger. no one is an expert.

>>"Is that a Dead song, if so what other studio/live CD's does it appear on? If it is a cover, who did the original?"


Beatles, off the "Revolver" Lp.