9-1-02 Red Rocks, CO

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LessThan (Lessthan) (162.33.155.189) on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 07:07 pm: Edit Post

Mickey Raphaell on harp was a great treat.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fuldad (Binlajolla) (198.81.26.208) on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 07:49 pm: Edit Post

Good to have you back..!!..#1 on Roll Call....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pinman (Pinman) (206.124.131.167) on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 08:11 pm: Edit Post

Pretty lame reviews y'all...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Franklin (Frankl) (63.211.240.137) on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 08:28 pm: Edit Post

lame because we are still trying to figure out 8/31


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dewit (Dewit) (67.82.69.174) on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 08:34 pm: Edit Post

How about some travel time allowance. Reality isn't coming back so readily.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Franklin (Frankl) (63.211.240.137) on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 08:53 pm: Edit Post

Right, Dewit!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By You Got To Be A (Soulshiner) (12.253.52.69) on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:22 pm: Edit Post

The show should be the first phil DVD. Smokin and the screen shots were excellent. First set seemed pretty Jimmy and the second set seemed like Warren's. The Shakedown picked up right where they left off on Saturday night. Groovy China Cat. The jams were definately psychedelic all weekend. This played perfectly for I am the Walrus. The light show was sweet here. The harmonica was an excellent addition and he seemed like he was really enjoying himself. Jimmy did it up on Good Lovin' and everyone was really stoked at the break.
Tight Unbroken Chain that turned trippy at the jam into Wharf Rat. Warren sang it true and it went perfectly into Lady with a Fan. It got slow with Again & Again. But went it came back into Inspiration, Molo was rolling. When settled into Viola, I had to run down front. Everyone was rocking down in front and the Golden Road was the high energy closer.
Encore: Not Fade Away with out much audience particpation. We were too busy getting down up front. Goodnight was the perfect end and they hugged and took a line bow. Awesome show that should be the first DVD.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Taperrob (Taperrob) (172.153.14.162) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 01:34 am: Edit Post

note on the encore: besides all those teases (hope someone can post what they were), but as noted on the band setlist, it was supposed to be GDTRFB instead of NFA.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fuldad (Binlajolla) (198.81.26.208) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 01:42 am: Edit Post

Trob..why do you think they changed the E: ??

GDTRFB too much to think about......NFA more optiions for future..??..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lou Carranza (Acousticjones) (68.58.48.156) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 02:51 am: Edit Post

Just cruzed in from Da Rocks....WHAT A WEEKEND!!!
Now I'm stuck in Indy w/ the Colorado Blues Again....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LessThan (Lessthan) (162.33.155.189) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 08:43 am: Edit Post

>>>>>>>>>Awesome show that should be the first DVD.

You know now that I think about it that is very true. It would showcase the band perfectly. VERY DANCE ORIENTED 1st set with a VERY Cerebral second set. interesting idea but with the guest harmonica player that could complicate things.

As for the change of encore. Phil came out for his donor rap and quite strongly commented on the LOVE that was shared that night. I must admit my thoughts often turned to LOVE that night again and again. So it seemed almost TOO perfect that the encore would be NFA.

Plus I wouldn't have been going down any road feeling bad after those two shows!

Just one man's spillage.......


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By midyswel (Mightyswell) (66.83.9.70) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 09:03 am: Edit Post

around us (taper area) crowd was into full on NFA chant after Golden Road... Phil DOES pay attenition :)


incredible shows, Candace on the Rocks...Breathtaking!!

natural is always the best :)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By pphunk (Thankyouphil) (63.225.143.170) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 10:10 am: Edit Post

Rob - the 1 encore tease that I can pull out of the fog right now was the Low Rider tease, they played it a couple of times. And Saturday, in addition to the Immigrant Song tease to start the 2nd set, there was a note for note quote of a riff from Whole Lotta Love - I thought perhaps they might do a bit of Zep Sunday after teasing so much Saturday, but it was not to be. Tuesday, and definitely not quite fully back to reality....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James Woodruff (Jumpturn) (207.15.10.252) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 10:18 am: Edit Post

I've posted a few of the teasers I heard...god there were a lot of them!

Saturday was Shakedown and Mt. Jam among others
Sunday got Lafayette Railroad (Feat jam), Low Rider (War)... more Mountain Jam.... DEFINITELY a Smokestack teaser as well... they pulled back on the 'Stack and did Wharf Rat instead (What a Rat, I was near tears).

Best shows I've seen in at least 15 years...I totally agree about the Phil DVD..."that would be something!"
James


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Hodges (Gbh) (140.172.144.174) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 10:42 am: Edit Post

I thought Saturday was a solid notch above Sunday. I'm probably in the minority though as most folks I talked to after Sunday liked that show better. I'd say Sunday was probably better if you would rather hear Shakedown Street over Cosmic Charlie, or Terrapin over The Eleven. Sunday had more "known" songs and that seemed to be what the crowd was after. I really like the way the band sounds when harmonizing. IMO it is one of their strongest points. There was a lot more of that on Saturday.

The only real downside to both nights was the shows seemed short to me. I think 1st set Sunday was just over one hour.

Gary


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeff d (Monkeyfish) (67.235.21.158) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 10:46 am: Edit Post

Teases-Sat-
immigrant Song
Whole lotta love leads during the breaks on Stephen
Sunday-
opening song was James Brown's Doin' it to Death (hence the Bobblehead James on Warren's amp)
also heard Low Rider and shortly after that the lead from Beck's Freeway Jam.
Anyone else hear these or am i crazy ????


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By rastafari (Petertosh) (152.163.189.169) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 10:49 am: Edit Post

you're crazy, but that's a whole other thing


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Georgie1 (Georgie1) (63.186.113.41) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:27 am: Edit Post

Some random thoughts from the weekend while they're still fresh in the noggin. But these shows will really never be forgotten.

- May have been a bit hard on Bobby yesterday. Any set with Dear Prudence ain't that bad. Thing is, by then we had gone up to the top of the Rocks and you literally couldn't hear him. Even in our good seats by the board it was very "muddy." Not poor playing, because his guys can play obviously, but muddy and not very loud. I know his music is supposed to be lighter, jazzy, wispy, whatever, but he needs a good sound mixer because he's using the same equipment that Phil sounds so great on...Also, according to Jenna and Megan [we met Jenna in New Orleans, she lives in Vail and has a bunch of (hot) friends who couldn't have been nicer. They were in line for great seats each morning (2nd row, 2nd night) while we (Andy Carla Dougie OZ W and myself) waltzed in in the afternoon, to the annoyance of others. But she held her ground! THANKS JENNA!] Bobby partied late into the morning Saturday night, single malt Scotch and mushrooms, and was really cool. Apparently he's the only one who still parties like crazy so that earns him some points as well...

- Hadn't been to RR since 1985 and had forgotten how steep it is. Every seat is pretty good. And how spectacular!! I'm no geologist and can't tell you how they were formed, but there are a bunch of secret paths and stairway entrances that wind through archways with huge drop-offs and things like that. When you go to the tippy top, you get a view of Denver to die for. It gives the Greek a run for it's money. About the only bad thing: Need more restrooms and better food and drink. FAT TIRE on tap though.

- Like I said, we had great seats saved for us each day so I feel assured enough to say this was the "best pair" of Phil shows ever. But there's a bit of sadness too, because the feeling in the air was definitely that it's the end. That's why they pulled out all the stops (except for Dark Star). An example: the second night Shakedown. I've commented here that the middle jam is my favorite thing in the whole Dead canon, but it's normally very short. This night they played those sweet chord changes through twice, if you know what I mean, and it was extraordinary. Major goosebumps. As mentioned, jam teases all over the place. Best Eleven ever. Walrus was huge. Good Lovin' is always a treat with these guys. There were so many highlights. So many JAMS. Just imagine the greatest versions of the tunes played, with the best jams within them and between them, and that's what you got. Okay, a bit of hyperbole but these shows should be released. Rob, Molo, everyone was on fire but especially...

WARREN!!! He showed up, to make the understatement of the century. He gave that little extra in every song, every solo, every vocal phrase. The man played fast guitar, fuzzy guitar, lots of killer slide...basically put on a clinic. I came into this incarnation of P&F not a big fan--he's too "Allman Bros."-- and am leaving thinking, God, I want to hear more Warren. TOO will just not be the same. Herring really deferred to him for most of these two shows, being the Southern gentleman he is, but when it was time for him to do what we know he can do, he did it and did it extremely well... And Phil?? He's ageless. Nothing more to say.

- THANK YOU PHIL AND FRIENDS!! You guys come back real soon, okay?!?!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Georgie1 (Georgie1) (63.186.112.201) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:51 am: Edit Post

Also have to say Willie was great. He kicked it in to high gear when Phil, his wife and the rest of the band came on stage to watch. So sublime!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fuldad (Binlajolla) (198.81.26.208) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 12:01 pm: Edit Post

Barbara said no TOO tour..she following Willie...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By backonthebus (Backonthebus) (65.32.171.149) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 01:03 pm: Edit Post

I have this fantasy that Willie will learn a couple of Jerry tunes. If he did Ripple or Brokedown Palace there wouldn't be a dry eye in the place.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeff d (Monkeyfish) (65.38.131.104) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 04:41 pm: Edit Post

Should have said the jam opening the 2nd set was James brown's Doin it to Death- Love the bobblyhead James on the big screen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted (Buddhat) (68.69.141.105) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 05:39 pm: Edit Post

Well, another run of spectacular shows by Phil and the boys in Colorado. I really wasn't expecting them to better the Red Rocks shows from last year -- shows you what I know! Pure bliss, particularly Sunday with Willie opening and probably the best second set I've seen PLQ pull off.

Georgie1 -- you hit in on the head with the respect and hospitality shown by Jimmy to Warren on what could have been Warren's last hoorah -- and no doubt that Warren came through with probably the best all around show I've seen him play with Phil. But folks, let's be serious here -- Jimmy Herring is a MONSTER guitarist. I can't count the number of times he completely elevated the jams to psychotic levels, particularly on Sunday. Did anyone else notice the run he played right after the "I MISS JERRY" sign was thrown on the video screen? TOTALLY SICK, but still had that twinge of respect for the Fat Man.

Anyhoo, hard to focus any of my perceptions on just one member of this fantastic quintet. If Sunday at Red Rocks was indeed the final episode, we should all thank the powers that be for scores of shows we were all able to witness over past couple years. Cheers to Widespread. Kudos to String Cheese. Hats of to Phish. But this line-up is truly the finest, most accomplished group of rock-improv musicians ever assembled....period.

Here's looking forward to the reunion tour.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By drew hoke (Orpheus) (205.170.5.76) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 06:59 pm: Edit Post

I second that motion about the best second set, Ted. Did anybody notice the intensity of Phil's face during this set? It seemed as if he was just as transported as the audience whenever he stepped up to the mike. The look in his eyes was absolutely haunting. Maybe it was my imagination, but I noticed some rather poignant exchange of glances between Phil and Warren throughout this set. My head still tingles thinking about Warren's tear-drenched rendition of Wharf Rat. ("I'll get a new start....")
By the end of the show, I felt almost united w/ band, audience, and the surroundings. Some of this may be due to it being my first time at the Rocks, some to the (mostly) non-drunken approach I took to this show, but whatever the case, there was a definite moment of bonding between the boys and the masses that, while more or less present at all the shows, seemed especially pronounced and magical on this occasion.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fuldad (Binlajolla) (198.81.26.208) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 07:23 pm: Edit Post

>>My head still tingles thinking about Warren's tear-drenched rendition of Wharf Rat. ("I'll get a new start....")>>

It seemed like an eternity following UBC...waiting in chatland for the 2nd song of 2nd set..Then wow...

I had to ask if Rob sings it....

The words appeared almost like a whisper..."No...Warren.."

I knew right then I had a prety good idea what you all must have been feelin...

From then on...I just sat back and watched the screen...( twist and shout listed as "song" was almost a comic interlude...)..Knowning for pretty darn sure we'd get that Viola...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Taperrob (Taperrob) (24.47.216.65) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 09:21 pm: Edit Post

Willie setlist as best as I can give it:

09/01/02 Red Rocks

willie:
whiskey river>
stay a little longer
good hearted woman
time just slips away>
crazy>
my life>
>(piano)
workingmans blues
help me make it thru the night
me & bobby mcgee
> ??
you got the money i got the time
blue eyes crying in the rain
(instr)
blue sky
georgia on my mind
all of me
...grow up to be cowboys
angels flying too close to the ground
on the road again
you are always on my mind
fly away??(waylon jennings song)
maria shutup and kiss me
what condition my condition is in
the great divide
my buckets got a hole in it(hank williams song)
have some fun on the bayou
(outro)

encore:
rainbow connection
moving on over
(outro)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By richm (Oldhead) (68.20.181.92) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:53 pm: Edit Post

jeff d, thanks for the comment on james brown, i heard that tease but friends around thought i was crazy. how do you pick between either show? there were the best. saturday, jimmy and warren came out, trading licks and going back and forth right from the beginning. they both seemed like they were having fun, and i can't say that every show i've seen warren looked like he was having as much fun as saturday or sunday. sunday might have been a little better, i thought it was more like a dead show for old d-heads. yes first set on sunday was short (only an hour) but they played a great "i am the walrus" (my wife has been calling for that song but always missed it).
someone commented on phil hearing/seeing the audience and repsonding. I could not agree more, he was smiling / laughing and dancing both nights. these were the best shows i've seen and while i missed O1's, how can they top what we saw this weekend?
I just hope warren is not gone forever as rumors suggest. Phil has created something that grows better and better and tighter and tighter every time they play. RR's what a place to experince a show!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By SOYMNS (Soy) (63.122.17.49) on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 12:35 am: Edit Post

Did Willie fool anyone else with the "outro", I thought it was Mystery Train, both times! IMO the Willie-PLQ combo made for an amazing "total" show. I also must add that the sound quality was perfect both nights, thanks to perfect weather (no wind). Lastly, what a great group of people to expierience the music with! No beer was spilled on me, even by myself, No "Chatty Cathys", No folks with "space" issues on my bare tootsies. 2 great shows back to back> Phil and crew: Thank you, for a real good time!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By julian (Prideofc) (65.142.99.214) on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 08:10 pm: Edit Post

thanks for the clarification on james brown song title...i only know it by the lyrics:"we're gonna have a funky good time...gonna take ya HIGHER!" and they surely did...any else feel the pain when they pulled the "blues 4 allah" out from under our feet(out of our heads)?...phil heals all wounds(THE family docter)...LOVE IS REAL...NOT(i repeat)NOT FADE AWAY)...a hopeful message for the future brothers and sister...peace


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Debbie Chapman (Beagleluv) (65.80.140.169) on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 10:03 pm: Edit Post

Had an odd moment during Willie (BTW, hats off to the man). Did anyone else think they heard a few riffs from "West Side Story?" It sounded a little like that "I feel pretty, oh so pretty..." It's entirely possible that I was just being psil-ly, if you know what I mean. Is there a Willie song that has a section that sounds like that? It was bizarre, and I'm just curious to know if I've been watching too many old movies.

Oh, and I thought both nights rocked, Natalie Wood notwithstanding! First time in Red Rocks--what a place!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By aaronmelnick (Sundawg) (209.214.56.19) on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 10:01 am: Edit Post

hey check this out...i saw willie nelson months ago here in asheville. i thought his harmonica dude was great and said to myself, "self(i always call myself that)this guy should jam with PLQ" well then he does it and i know i called it months ago. yay me. anywho after the sunday night show i found an empty hohner harmonica case backstage. i asked around but willies bus and band was long gone. so i kept it. it is red and for the "C" harmonica. its just plastic or i would not have kept it. still has a reciept thing stuck to it. its from germany.

monday morning phil and his family were walking behind me and my friend. phils boys made some "yo quero taco bell "jokes because of my friends chiwah-wah. then phil did the "yo quero taco bell " thing. i almost lost it. i think i internally combusted. i thanked him for a great weekend and he said "your more than welcome young man". my circuit has been completed. i love phil so much and would never impede on his personal space. he acknowledged my existence. i exist in his world now. if he only knew how much he means to our world. the thing is i think he knows and i think his family needs him so much more than us and he has all the money to retire but he must live out his grateful dead existence in appreciation for his wealth and respect from people. i almost feel bad that so many people need him so bad (including billy,mickey,bobby) that he would spend his last precious days on the road with the family. i swear i dont think people get it some time. these are the most special times indeed. this is the test of the boomerang.

LT: i am enthrawled with the book you gave me. i will not pass it along as i know i will read it over and over and over. and i will also find the other books in the series. i am on page 15 ish. about otter and how he is learning his powers and being used and etc. you coudnt have picked a better present. i will have to figure out something else to pass along--which wont be hard. your gift of energy will not stop with me. but i dont think i can ever rip this book out of my presonal possesion.

and i cant reiterate enough that i wish there was more time to have spent bullshitting with the other zoners. between wanting to stroll aorund with my girlfriend, shmoozing with friends, absorbing the music, seeing old,old loved ones, and staying puffed-to-the-max it was harder than i thought. and once i staked out good seats in the show there was no way i was giving em up. headlight,rasta,zen,rev,the little couple,all you guys: i would have loved to exchanged witisisms with you guys all day but alas we shall meet again. rev---sorry i forgot those madonna sbds..just kidding--i guess ill let the joke die down some. (like a virgin , PUFFED for the very first time...)heheheheheheheheeeeee!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LessThan (Lessthan) (162.33.155.189) on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 10:16 pm: Edit Post

Hey Dawg that wasn't the agreement and you know it.....

Besides you won't need the book becuase it is already written on your soul. That is why it is speaking out to you.

Like I said that book lept off the shelf into my hand. Literally. I was pulled out of my seat and across the airport terminal to the bookstore and when I reached for the book there was a little crackle and the book jumped that last little bit into my hand.

Read it and enjoy it. But when the time comes. pass it on to the next one. In fact Write my name on the top of the inside cover and then write your name under it. Then pass it on.

Send your address to me I will send you book 1.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dossman 58 (Dossman58) (68.100.253.81) on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 03:28 pm: Edit Post

Passing books along. I want to tell you a story, Less Than. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. A great read for ANY 15 year old. The name of the owner was written in that very location. It was other than the person who gave it to me. A few years pass, and I'm in college a few states away literally and mentally, and in a condition not unlike the protaganist(s) in F&LINLV "wait till you see those bats". I'm hangin' with a great bunch, and this guy from another college in the North East is visiting, and we get along, chatting up a storm, and the conversation turns to the book, and I say how much I enjoy it. He says, "used to have it..."

The next question was, "what's your last name again, Duncan?" Well, the collective mind was blown when I was able to return this book to his possession after a five year random journey. That's MY book story, for what it's worth.

You get those discs I sent ya?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mrs. PPhunk (Saintphine) (63.49.226.114) on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 06:37 pm: Edit Post

almost forgot: does anyone think the absence of the white backdrops on Sunday nights was due to their flying around wildly in the breeze on Saturday? or did C. simply want to play with the rocks? (speculative answers, i know, but just curious)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By chad osborne (Chado) (143.199.125.10) on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 06:53 pm: Edit Post

i wondered that to Mrs. P...not sure if it was planned to use one night, then the rocks the 2nd, or the wind made them scrap the idea on night 2. either way, i really enjoyed them using the rocks for the backdrop...that's the best thing about that place.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Taperrob (Taperrob) (24.47.216.65) on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 08:38 pm: Edit Post

The wind played havoc on those backdrops Saturday night. Good decision to go without Sunday night as it seemed it was just as breezy Sunday.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By aaronmelnick (Sundawg) (209.214.56.215) on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 10:34 pm: Edit Post

yes it was the wind. occicial answer. from behind the scenes.


**hey did you guys notice Phil's signature on the big thankyou card??? it said thanks a load, phil lesh or something like that...too cool..it made the whole hotel thing seem really valid..like we were intown for some kind of family thing..i mean i know we were..but it made it seem as official as the wedding or the marine reunion thing..the crew dug it too...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By aaronmelnick (Sundawg) (209.214.56.215) on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 10:39 pm: Edit Post

LT: how bout i pass along mickey raphael's harmonica case instead??? ok ok ill pass it along..but it will take a while to find the right person. suggest tittles and ill totally buy 'em for myself...i think she makes references to the other books in the back or foreward anyway. this book is a good cross section...i have more flights next week so ill be reading alot....

my fav books:

catcher in the rye(yes from high school)

on the road

DEMON BOX--no other book is a better reflection of ken the man, not the prankster.

Junkie>Queer>Naked Lunch trilogy--i feel i learned to write reading these books. it grosses me out when he gets all gay...but you can skipp ahead till theres no more young guy's ass references and not puke.

dharma girl is a good book--probably not widely found--kind of within the family

?????


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fuldad (Binlajolla) (198.81.21.167) on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 12:31 am: Edit Post

>DEMON BOX--no other book is a better reflection of ken the man, not the prankster.<

..IMO..No histroy of scene is valid w/ out this Kesey you the man read...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By LessThan (Lessthan) (162.33.155.189) on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 10:32 am: Edit Post

>>>>>>>>>>>>but it will take a while to find the right person.

You may be suprised....It may just be an arm's length away and you won't realize it until the moment takes you. Just let the wind tell you where and when and then the who will become obvious.

Dossman that is the best story I have ever heard...truly creepy and exciting at the same time. & That is the way I like my life mixed thank you!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By aaronmelnick (Sundawg) (209.214.57.23) on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 10:34 am: Edit Post

demon box is funny as shit--he talks about the east coast heads who make pilgrimages to his farm that have never read his works...tooo funny as i was one of those east coast kids...i always thought i had to make a connection with ken untill i finished demon box and realised my connection was already made. i did call him about a few weeks after jerry passed and i said "ken, im sorry to bother you. i always thought id have a chance to thank jerry for a lot of things and that chance has passed. let me just say 'thank you' from a lot of people who didnt know they could do what they wanted.." he said "your welcome young man...i really need to get back to the computer and then feed the animals"..that was ken to a tee. if you ever want to find the equal opposite space of a BIG TIME dead show go to oregon. its everything you never thought and less. you dont need a pass or a stickie to live, commune, love, and puff with family. no one will see it though. it will be yours and yours alone. the prankster family is caught in a quandry of wanted to not sell-out and also watching millions being made off of stupid ass trinkets and shirts that say GD. all good things in all good time i guess. untill then buy a kesey book from a store or from the kesey sites on the comp. you will support family that way.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fuldad (Binlajolla) (198.81.17.171) on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 10:54 am: Edit Post

What book...or do I have to wait until next time I go to a show and at airport hang around gift shop and wait for it to jump outta rack and fly into my hand...I could do that..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James Woodruff (Jumpturn) (216.155.111.250) on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 12:20 pm: Edit Post

Kesey's "Sometimes a Great Notion," an EPIC, AWESOME novel, one of the best reads ever-- it IS the Great American Novel, dosed beyond recognition!
"Hey! God damn you anyhow, Hank Stamper!"

Reading Desolation Angels to my girlfriend right now...it's cracking her up. So far I turned her on to the Dead and Kerouac...talk about a BAD INFLUENCE!! Took her 41 years to finally start hanging around the wrong crowd...

About the white curtains, Mrs. P.: I think the roadies thought they were a major pain in the ass; I also thought Candace wanted to play--and play she did!! She is the BOMB on lights. I wish she'd come over and decorate my apartment...

Uh-oh, Jerry just slipped from NFA into Hey Bo Diddley! Gotta get up and make an ass out of myself.... :)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Zen (Zen) (66.20.237.122) on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 04:27 pm: Edit Post

>>>**hey did you guys notice Phil's signature on the big thankyou card??<<

his kids signed it too. as did schools,warren and jimmy.
very cool.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By tommybell (Againandagain) (24.120.113.184) on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 09:02 pm: Edit Post

Andrewhoke...... yes, I did notice the expressions on Phil's face when he was singing. It's been haunting me all week.

Unbroken, Wharf Rat, Lady with a Fan..... those three songs still have me reeling. Mainly due to the emotional intensity of the vocals...and the depth of the lyrics. The message of these songs seemed so vital, so important at the time it was as if there were some enormous secret embedded in them. I can't put my finger on it but all night and particularly with these three, there was an emotional heaviness to the music. (warren leaving?) Phi's eyes were closed. He didn't need to consult his lyric sheets once. And Warren's delivery was delicate and precise and full of empathy for August West.

Same goes for the scat singing at the end of Shakedown and at the end of Not Fade Away. And of course Bid you Goodnight. The music was unreal, even by the standards of these guys on their best nights, but 10 years from now I'll still remember the vocals.

Anyway, 15 PLQ and 30-some GD and I've never seen or experienced anything quite like Sunday night. This was a BIG BIG BIG show.

Love is real.

God bless em!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By steve mann (Mannfred) (64.158.171.51) on Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 12:17 pm: Edit Post

>>>>>>>Anyway, 15 PLQ and 30-some GD and I've never seen or experienced anything quite like Sunday night. This was a BIG BIG BIG show.

agreed...but I rank Saturday the same...what a weekend.....

....our collective spirit will help lead these guys back together....I think the boys understand the power and beauty of the music they make.

whenever it may be, I will try like hell to be there for the next show.

Peace, y'all


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Noah Phence (Phenster) (65.185.72.133) on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 03:54 pm: Edit Post

Immigrant song jam --->Dear mr fantasy is what was going ist nite red rocks.

Although it dosent say it on the website, it

truly was one of the best shows P&F has ever played.

The end
NP


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeff d (Monkeyfish) (67.235.21.100) on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:08 am: Edit Post

Hey Noah, Did you send me an E-mail ? I deleted it with out opening because there was nothing in the topic box. I think I recognize the name. Re-send W/a topic if you want,I just don't open unknown sources with the danger of viruses and all. Jeff


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TSTT (Tstt) (65.36.67.18) on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:02 am: Edit Post

I saw lots of mics...did everyone forget to turn on their recorders? I sure can't find a tape :-(

TooStonedToType@hotmail.com


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By steve mann (Mannfred) (205.184.129.103) on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:58 pm: Edit Post

I've been eagerly searching the furthur network but no luck so far....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Deja_Voodoo (Deja_Voodoo) (209.197.0.24) on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 01:29 am: Edit Post

I am still looking for the Aspen/Red rocks shows also. They blew my mind away live, now I have to hear them again to make sure my mind returned to my body fter the shows.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Deja_Voodoo (Deja_Voodoo) (209.197.0.24) on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 01:29 am: Edit Post

I am still looking for the Aspen/Red rocks shows also. They blew my mind away live, now I have to hear them again to make sure my mind returned to my body after the shows.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By You Got To Be A (Soulshiner) (63.75.21.170) on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 12:28 pm: Edit Post

listening to this show right now at work...

ahh, the memories. mickey was great on the harp. molo backing vocals on i am the walrus.

god bless the tapers!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By GreenBandit (Bandit12) (128.138.154.66) on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 04:09 pm: Edit Post

Please get me a copy of the red Rocks Shows!!! will trade or anything?? please help a brother out! These shows were amazing and i NEED to hear them again soon....thanks for any help...nothing but peace and love


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By cinderoo (Cinderoo) (132.241.48.169) on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:19 pm: Edit Post

just saw a picture of the "schools/warren haynes stealth show at the mule mobile" from red rocks. what the? anyone see that? what did they play?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By chad osborne (Chado) (143.199.125.10) on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:37 pm: Edit Post

they played about a half dozen songs...i was lucky enough to catch that, but it caused to miss the beginning of Willie's set. i can't remember everything they played now, i believe beautifully broken was played, and the 'encore' in which Warren encouraged requests, was 'and it stoned me>soushine'

not sure how to add a pic of them to the message so i added one to my profile.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By chad osborne (Chado) (143.199.125.10) on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:51 pm: Edit Post

ok i think i got let me see if these come out ok

warrenanddave.jpg


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By chad osborne (Chado) (143.199.125.10) on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 02:53 pm: Edit Post

guess not...i'll work on it...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By cinderoo (Cinderoo) (132.241.48.169) on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 03:05 pm: Edit Post

damn...that's cool, except that i missed it. thanks chad.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By NHale (Ststepheniam) (12.252.147.52) on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 02:53 am: Edit Post

Just trying to share a little of the music....so here is the offer.

In exchange for someone sending the Red Rocks shows in my direction, I will reoffer the shows 10 times in return.

This is not a BNP offer....only miracles. Maybe with one catch....

Five of the shows will go to those that are able to reoffer a single copy back to the zoners, and five copies will go to those that are unable to reoffer.

Stuff this good has got to be shared.
Just for kicks, if the Aspen show is available, I will throw that in as well.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick P. (Skevap) (66.168.181.63) on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 07:54 pm: Edit Post

Does anyone out there have Willie's set? i heard from a friend that was there that it was great. He asked me to score it and I said that I would try.

If anyone can help me out (B&P, trade?) please contact me at skevap@aol.com

Thanks!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Taperrob (Taperrob) (24.47.216.65) on Sunday, October 06, 2002 - 12:17 pm: Edit Post

i am offering the Red Shows (Phil sets right now). check PhilFreak Tape Trade discussions, 'Red Rocks CD's - come and get em' thread