12-30-05 Warfield Theater - SF, CA

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joshua Muscat (Skullcap) on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 08:34 pm: Edit Post

This show was wonderful... anyone else think so? I will post a lengthier review later... seriously though.... one of the best shows ever.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Francis Sinatra (Frank__sinatra) on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 09:11 pm: Edit Post

Best show of the run by far


Barry and Larry had some very very nice interplay going all night. Joan and Rob laying down sweet vocals that were on cue, had the traditional cadence, and brought many smiles to my face.

Phil seemed in good spirits and Molo is the MAN.

Apparently RA had "Food Poisoning" and couldn't make this show.

The Unbroken Chain was fantastic!

Ran into Brent, 2DankDan, Big Bill, Canyon was there but I didn't get to say hi.

Also ran into a couple friends who I hadn't seen since the GD's last NYE show in '92. This was a very cool surprise and so good to see old friends who I'd lost touch with.


Thanks for a GREAT show Phil!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joshua Muscat (Skullcap) on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 09:20 pm: Edit Post

Unbroken Chain left me staring in amazement!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fulDad (Binlajolla) on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 10:23 pm: Edit Post

I'd write a review..but

I am currently in maintenance mode™

Ha!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joshua Muscat (Skullcap) on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 10:53 pm: Edit Post

Ok.... My review...

This is one of those shows that I am going to need to go back and listen to in order to understand how much of what I experienced was a machination of my own mind, and how much was actually based on the music. I am inclined to feel that much of it was based on the music seing how I was aware of when mistakes were made, or shen a song was not going particularly well. Indeed, one of the notable things about this show is that not the whole thing was stellar, but the parts that were, were ultrastellar. Indeed, the parts that were not as great still had a vibe of 'trying' that made them enjoyable.

Ok... now I gotta sya... John Mayer comes of as a bit of a tool... but... he passes the vitamin A test. I thoruughly disliked his set at the Filmore (excepting a song or 2), but with Vitamin A it was much more interesting. The last 2 songs he did were terrible even with Vitamin A, but the one all improv bit he did was thoroughly entertaining, and yes... trippy. He relys on his image too much for my taste though. he played the same set all three nights!!! Deadhead hell... lol. He is actually pretty talented, but I wish he used his talents differently.

Cold Rain> The composed parts were a bit rough, but the jaming was top notch.. the sound in the room was good, and Phil's bass was sounding especially plucky and rubery... it was clear from the start that he was in 'I am serious about making music' mode. I have seen him like this before... most notably on 12-19-94 and more recently on 10-30-05. The room was quite humid being full of wet deadheads.

Loser> Robs vocals were a bit weak, and unsure, but once they got to the instrumental section, it took flight...

Sweet Ilusion> Dont remember this one that well

Unbroken Chain> Wow... one of the best pieces of music I have ever seen (even by 'when Jerry was alive' standards). I was so blown away by this. Phil welcomed a host of fey into the Warfield with this song. Vocals were good (if not techincally, then emotionally)... music was good... visuals were good... dragons were born... this is why I keep coming back to this music. Such beauty... I love the end of the song jam that Jimmy herring developed, that has now become a standard element.

Bartering Lines> I do not remember this one either, though I remember Joan being in fine form all night... I love what she adds to the music

New Speedway>Second best song of the night IMHO... at the end I really felt like they meant that the darkness has got to give. That was one of the remarkable things about this show... it really felt like they meant the lyrics they were singing. Good jaming on this song also.

2nd set...

UJB> Really, really, really, really, really good... Did Lary play a banjo on this tune? I had visions of great potential banjo music during this song... which is good seeing how I just purchased an electric banjo. Something clicked in me during this song... it was a healing experience.

Magnolia Mountain> So so beautiful. Joan rules... I am sorry Ryan was sick, but I am glad Joan was the one to sing this... what a heart wrenching song... has anyone else taken a close look at the lyrics? In not, here you go...

I want to go to Magnolia Mountain
And lay my weary head down
Down on the rocks
On the mountain my savior made
Steady my soul and ease my worry
Hold me when I rattle like a hummingbird hummin'
Tie me to the rocks on the mountain my savior made

Lie to me
Sing me a song
Sing me a song until the morning comes
If the morning comes, will you lie to me
Will you take me to your bed
Will you lay me down
Till I'm heavy like the rocks on the riverbed
That my savior made

I want to be the bluebird singing
Singing to the roses in her yard
The roses in her yard her father grew for her
It's been raining that Tennessee honey
So long I got too heavy to fly
Ain't no bluebird ever gets too heavy to sing

Lie to me
Sing me a song
Sing me a song until the morning comes
And if the morning don't come, will you lie to me
Will you take me to your bed
Will you lay me down
Till I'm heavy like the rocks in the riverbed
That my savior made

We burned the cotton fields down in the valley
And ended up with nothing but scars
The scars became the lessons that we gave to our children after the war
But there ain't nothing but the truth up on the Magnolia Mountain
Where nobody ever dies
Steady your soul and ease your worry
They got a room for you

Lie to me like I lie to you
Calm me down until the morning comes
And if the morning don't come
Lie to me
Will you take me to your bed
Will you lay me down
All heavy like the rocks in the riverbed
That my savior made

Turn On Your Love Light> So good, again Joan helps make it great. Very well jamed. Great light show for just using the house lights too. I never used to like this song, but it has grown on me of late. I like it when it has less sexual connotations, and more of a general sense of love.

Touch of Grey, Help On The way, Slipknot> They kinda lost momentum here. I imagine that after going balls out for so long, they were runing out of steam. I was ok with it... I would have been hapy if the show ended after Unbroken Chain.

Gimme Sheter> Better, but not as good

Donor Rap> Phil seemed excited about the show, and explained that it takes the right chemistry of people to make the music work. he said that they could set up and play fro a different group of people, and it would not work the same.

E:Box Of Rain> Presumably for Ryan... it seemed kinda like a good natured ribing. Phil had a humorous trixter energy to him all night. Toward the end of the song, the band welled up for one last flourish of musical excelence... this helped me to understand that the show losing momentum was not just because I was coming down.

Moral of the story... when P+F play the Warfield, go and see the damn show. The best shows I have seen have been there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By VooDoo Child (Wuzzup777) on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 11:52 pm: Edit Post

great show.....very emotional.....even brought fritzs pillow to the show w/ me....he was close by


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joshua Muscat (Skullcap) on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 12:02 am: Edit Post

One thing this show reinforced for me is that the veil between worlds is much thiner than many might believe... neither Fritz,nor Jerry, nor any who we love and have lost are really all that far... tis only a temporary and parial separation (death that is). It does not mean that the pain of the seperation is not felt deep though...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fulDad (Binlajolla) on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 12:15 am: Edit Post

Thanks for the review Skullcap..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alex Hamilton (Gibsongc) on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 05:16 am: Edit Post

I just posted a LONG review about the NYE show, which I loved. I thought I'd share my thoughts (for what they are worth...) about the Fillmore show as well.

Overall, I felt like I had seen it a million times. I have been to a lot of PLF shows, and this sounded the same. Especially after having had my ass kicked by Ryan the night before (didn't make me a believer, but kept me from being a hater). Even the Ryan songs (especially Magnolia Mountain) sounded like PLF standards with Joan singing them.

This isn't to say I was bored, but I spent more time out in the front area than I did actually watching. I left when I heard the first notes of "Help On The Way". I realize I missed a killer Gimme Shelter, but I heard it on the fall tour, and I like Robinson doing Mick Jagger better than I like Joan singing it. I have just heard too many goddamn Help/Slipknot/Whatevers. If they do it again, they had better change something or its bathroom break time for me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By sharon (Flowrgrl) on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 02:33 pm: Edit Post

The worst show I ever saw. I didn't dance at all and spent most of the night in the halls chatting. Last time I saw Phil at the Warfield, I had sweat coming out of my forhead crease.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jgp (Greenwood88) on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 02:46 pm: Edit Post

"The worst show I ever saw"

you're joking right? If not why are you even here. To say this was the worst show you ever saw; well we are all entitiled to our opinions but jeese get off the bus already.

For me was a real solid show but enjoyed NYE better I guess. They were complete different musical experiences for me and I feel blessed to have witnessed such variety in one weekend. Thanks phil!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bluetrain (Bluetrain) on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 04:06 pm: Edit Post

>>Bartering Lines> I do not remember this one either, though I remember Joan being in fine form all night... I love what she adds to the music

This is a Ryan song from his albuum Heartbreaker.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By fat freddy's cat (Subform_warp) on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 08:48 pm: Edit Post

>>>Unbroken Chain left me staring in amazement!!

moi aussi!

I really enjoyed this show, especially the first part of the first set. After being out the pouring rain the music was sheer bliss. Other than the two songs sung by Joan, which sucked most of the energy briefly from the room, the entire set was tight and well played. Second set was a little more scatterbrained (or was it just me). I thought the band lost a little focus but never fell completeley apart. Gimme Shelter was treat and Box of Rain struck a particularly emotional chord, inspiring deep recollections of all those I have lost, physically, mentally, or spiritually.

To the kind couple I met from Baltimore, thanks for the sweet herb. Hope you had fun in Humboldt, I ended up there for a few days as well. Peace.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JP (Tatters) on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 12:49 am: Edit Post

Worst Show Ever was Spinal Tap opening for the puppet show. It's documented.

Stockton, CA, 1982

http://spinaltapfan.com/atozed/TAP00419.HTM


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bruce Edward Weber (Eddieboy) on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 04:25 am: Edit Post

I thought the first set of the Warfield show was one of the best sets I have ever seen Phil and Friends play since 4/16/99, and I saw almost every west coast show since then. Cold Rain ans Snow was worth the price of admission, and I didn't care what they played after that. Larry did a killer solo in Loser where he was way up on the guitar neck. Liked Joan more than ever at this show, she has an angelic voice, and is a very talented musician. Unbroken Chain was great from the first notes and Barry and Larry jamming back and forth made this another highlight. The New Speedway Boogie was very well played from my viewpoint, which was front row balcony almost all the way to Phil's side. I couldn't see Rob, but it didn't matter. The energy was truly incredible, and The Warfield is my favorite venue of all time. I just wish the people around me weren't talking so much, so I hope a recording becomes available soon. Thanks to Phil and The Band and GDTS for making my Christmas Vacation one of the best ever, eddieboy (Bruce Weber). P.S. Get this recording!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray (Njray) on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 10:49 am: Edit Post

From hearing the stream's (thanks a million for those!!) Ryan may have written Mag. Mt. but Joan OWN's it. What feeling comes across there, and the boy's seemed to have a lot of fun with it also. Bring it back east Phil!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By EssEphReek (Essephreek) on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 11:55 am: Edit Post

Eddieboy and Scullcap pretty much nailed it, it was an excellent show, though I can agree with Alex H. to the extent that it didn't break THAT much new ground. So not too much to add.

>>I just wish the people around me weren't talking so much

Ah, the CHATTERING IDIOTS who seem to infest shows in SF. I feel for you. The one advantage I had in being in the nosebleed section is that people willing to sit there seem to be willing to shut up and listen.

And indeed where there were no CHATTERING IDIOTS, the show was stellar.

Absolutely the best Unbroken I've seen (and I've been at most of the West Coast shows since '98 or '99 as well). The thing that L and B do better than any other pair of guitarists that Phil has had is, they actually support and enhance each other's solos, rather than either just marking time until their own turn, or trying to compete. On Unbroken, the interplay on the weird time signature part of the instrumental (you know, BA-ba ba-BA ba-BA ba-ba-BA-ba ba-BA-ba-ba-ba) was amazing, and Barry's solo and Larry's accompaniment at the end were just mind blowing.

Magnolia Mtn is indeed a GREAT song. Too bad, maybe, that Ryan is (or tries to be) a musician as well as a songwriter. Could easily see him as the new Hunter, writing songs that truly inpire the (real) musicians and give the band so much of its personality. Without playing with the band.

But in a nod to Alex H -- back in the day I would never have *dreamed* I would say this, but I'm pretty well burnt out on H-S-F, or H-S-whatever. Shelter was a saving grace there though...

Show was easily an 8 on a scale of 1 to 10.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Adriane Bovone (Osha) on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 01:28 pm: Edit Post

>>The worst show I ever saw. I didn't dance at all and spent most of the night in the halls chatting. Last time I saw Phil at the Warfield, I had sweat coming out of my forhead crease.>>

This is something I simply do not understand. I like to dance, and often do, at shows. But it seems like you go for the dancing? Which is totally fine, I just don't get it. I feel certain that if you stayed inside where the music was being played instead of chatting in the halls, you would have heard some amazing music that, if not your feet, would move your heart and mind. I highly suggest opening up your parameters for a good time at a concert to include quietly listening to what is being played, even if it is not 'danceable' - only because I think there's a lot you may be missing. I imagine, too, that it only helps the musicians birth a mind-blowing show if the audience were as focused and committed as they to creating and maintaining the space needed for this kind of experience to happen. I think Phil may have actually addressed that in his comments after the 2nd set.

Anyway, I hope you have a better time at future shows.

I LOVED this show. And not just for the Unbroken Chain: I wasn't dancing during this song but I was transported over green fields and golden plains, through waterfalls and into mountain caverns intricately and gorgeously carved; soaring up into the arches of this place and turning around to look at where i had come from only to see that the cavern was a monumnetal dragon's egg and i was looking down onto the face of a new-born dragon (me the size of a gnat in comparison)that had just poked through its egg enough to reveal it's head. and at the end of the song, after the thunder has abated and it is lilting to a close, i could almost hear phil saying, "wasn't that just so beautiful? that was incredible!" and then there's a collective sigh and a deep breath and...onto the next attempt at finding harmonic interface with mythic energies and archetypes.

I echo that the second set was less focused than the first. There were peaks like Magnolia Mountian and Lovelight where Joan was able to tranform her vocals into a shining amethyst beacon. Stellar stuff. But really, nothing gold can stay and the fact that it was struck even once that night, must render the miners exuberant, grateful and weary. I cannot fault them for not sustaining a peak for 3 hours.

Excellent show!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fulDad (Binlajolla) on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 02:01 pm: Edit Post

The RA songs played by Phil Lesh and Friends whoever sings them ae outstanding..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cnrgjess (Cnrgjess) on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 04:03 pm: Edit Post

Thanks Adriane for such beautiful imagery and your lyrical writing. The Warfield was magical indeed and so worth what I had gone through to get there (mudslides, detours, and snowy mtn passes). Arriving just in time for Phil's set, Cold Rain and Snow was like Phil noddin' right at me, saying thanks for coming...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JANE SMITH (Sage_girl) on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 05:51 pm: Edit Post

GDad, I saw you the very exact moment Cold Rain & snow went into Loser..it was cosmic BozJolla timing~~~~~~~


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spacement (Spacement) on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 06:25 pm: Edit Post

I think Phil was noddin' at all of us with the Cold Rain. Just listening back on that song will always remind me of the weather that night. Luckily I didn't have to travel from the Northbay that night, just very far from the Eastbay. And of course leaving us with the Box of Rain as we all left to go back over the bridges in some very heavy rain.

This was by far my favorite night of the run. The second set was very stop and go but to me it felt like they started the NYE party a day early. I was grooving more to that second set than I did for the second set at NYE. Gimme Shelter had the Warfield rocking pretty hard and that was my song of the night.

But the whole night was magical and it was nice seeing the "Friends" having a good time up on stage unlike the night before at the Fillmore. It's funny because of all the shows I was expecting to dig the Warfield the least. Phil never amazes to surprise me for good or bad.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By sharon (Flowrgrl) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 12:09 pm: Edit Post

>>The worst show I ever saw. I didn't dance at all and spent most of the night in the halls chatting. Last time I saw Phil at the Warfield, I had sweat coming out of my forhead crease.>>

This is something I simply do not understand. I like to dance, and often do, at shows. But it seems like you go for the dancing? Which is totally fine, I just don't get it. I feel certain that if you stayed inside where the music was being played instead of chatting in the halls, you would have heard some amazing music that, if not your feet, would move your heart and mind. I highly suggest opening up your parameters for a good time at a concert to include quietly listening to what is being played, even if it is not 'danceable' - only because I think there's a lot you may be missing.

I didn't realise reveiew were only supposed to be positive. I live to dance to Grateful Dead, the spiritual high I receive from spinning to every gentle note that touches the air is almost unexplainable. I did stay inside alot and when I wasn't feeling the music I went out in the hall as so not to disturb other peoples experiences by chatting. I love and admire Phil and his music, and if one night for some people is "the best thing they have ever experienced" and for others not, can't that just be acceptable.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Adriane Bovone (Osha) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 01:28 pm: Edit Post

>>I didn't realise reveiew were only supposed to be positive.

i never implicated that i thought all reviews should be positive. i think it's totally acceptable and part of the nature of art that some folks like it and others don't.

i can understand the spiritual high of dancing to music, even though dancing is not my primary mode of being in the moment with the music. and i really appreciate your thoughtfulness towards others by stepping out to talk. that is excellent.

i did not mean my response to be a personal put-down. i thought that sharing other ways of listening could possibly result in multiple ways to enjoy a show and therefore increase your chances of having great experiences with this music - i would wnat that for any of us. for example, i might try dancing more at a show because of how you described your experience in your second post. in your original post, you said you spent most of the night in the halls chatting. one reason why i think this may have been a deterrent to hearing some of the things I and many others heard that night is the physics of the situation. The gentle notes that you love to dance to are subtle and if you are not in their intimate space while they are happening, you'll miss them. there's huge masonry structures and carpets and people between you and the note while you are in the hall. this is not a matter of opinion; this is a matter of physics. i missed so much in my listening experiences - live or recorded - until someone pointed out to me that it makes a huge difference where your ears are in relation to the sound source, and my understanding of the subtlely of those parameters (down to where you stand in relation to the speakers in your living room, say - 12 inches could really change what you hear)is refining every day, resulting in better and better listening experiences.

anyway, it makes perfect sense to me that if you're not feeling the music, you might want to go elsewhere. i just think that with this particular music, the moments that are awesome can ebb and flow throughout the night - the musicians don't even know when the crests are going to sustain and build - and by the time you hear that that is happening out in the hall, you've probably missed the first part of it. for me, that's part of what is so exhilirating - hearing and watching the points where something shifts and the musicians latch on and coax an energetic into the room until they're skillfully holding on for thier lives during the heartbreaking or thunderous crescendo...like riding a spice worm on arrakis or surfing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JANE SMITH (Sage_girl) on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 06:20 pm: Edit Post

it goes to show that we are all so different in out perception of the music, I thought it was so amazingly great that I could not tear myself away from inside to even go to the bathroom cause I didnt want to miss out on what I was hearing...'one man gathers what another man spills'


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mr Benson (Bert) on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 07:16 pm: Edit Post

If you are in the hall chatting how can you judge music that you did not hear because you were in the hall chatting instead of inside listening?
Can someone please explain that to me please?

Thank You


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JANE SMITH (Sage_girl) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 06:20 am: Edit Post

Yea, can someone explain that to me too please? How can one judge music one does not even hear? Fucking no kidding! HA!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John (Dubstar) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 11:25 am: Edit Post

listened on the archive last night through my stereo...sounds pretty good...would definitely like to have been there


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By sharon (Flowrgrl) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 12:39 pm: Edit Post

If you are in the hall chatting how can you judge music that you did not hear because you were in the hall chatting instead of inside listening?
Can someone please explain that to me please?

Thank You

Its pretty easy to hear music in the halls of the Warfield, you may or maynot have noticed that some people even like dancing out there. I heard it all, it just didn't move me as the music normally does, and I wasn't about to force myself to love it. Yes, some of the night was nice, it didn't blow my mind, it didn't make me dance til I touched god, and it didn't stop me in my tracks. That doesn't mean that I didn't have fun, for me musically, and what I normally experience at a show it just wasn't there. I'm sure there have been times when one show blew someones mind, while someone else found it subpar. As for Judging music one doesn't hear I heard it all and musically, Phil has never disappointed me in terms of style and composition, and my comments are not ment so much as judgements as they are personal observations. The MUSIC itself was played wonderfully, don't think I heard a single note dropped...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fulDad (Binlajolla) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 12:53 pm: Edit Post

Most of the time I can only or ot clearly remember what I felt not what I heard..

Have vague memories of sound..more prominetly remember of thoughts and fellings..

Did not hear my first show again till; 33 years after it happened...

Remembered some sounds..mostly images and thoughts some very clearly and untattered...

That said...I dont often listen to shows that I was at too soon afterwards...let them sit for a while in my mind...maybe never will hear the show again..But I will not likely forget parts of what I remember feeling at that show...and from that maybe appear new things in my head from those feelings..or later on when I listen to show...remember something I forgot...or find something new..

Did I have "eargasms" (Bucky and Keyshawns term) at Warfield..??..

Yep I did..maybe the only time the entire run...that I now remember (I have not listened to any of 3 since)..

Powerfully felt that night..thru my ears..into my body...fully absorbed and exploded in me

It happened during...an unexpectidly played tune..I feel sorta cheap..had consumed alcohol in qunatities to affect me at a show for first time in 2 plus years...maybe that had something to do with it..but..hey..I remember it happening..at the Warfield on the floor set 2....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fulDad (Binlajolla) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 01:20 pm: Edit Post

Name that tune.............



Typo..first line above post should read..

Most of the time I can most clearly remember what I felt not what I heard..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joshua Muscat (Skullcap) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 03:24 pm: Edit Post

While I am not inclined to argue with someone about wether or not they liked a show, I must contest the notion that you can hear every note in the loby at the warfield. If there are objects between you and the speakers (I.E. walls), the sound changes. Indeed, entire portions of the sound spectrum will be inaudible. I feel that judging the music from that vantage point is a questionable endevor.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By sharon (Flowrgrl) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 03:46 pm: Edit Post

While I am not inclined to argue with someone about wether or not they liked a show, I must contest the notion that you can hear every note in the loby at the warfield. If there are objects between you and the speakers (I.E. walls), the sound changes. Indeed, entire portions of the sound spectrum will be inaudible. I feel that judging the music from that vantage point is a questionable endevor.

Its amazing how much one can hear through an opening, or a door. My point of being in the hall was to not ruin anyone elses experience by my lack of enthusiam for the show, I did not judge from the hall, I did not miss a single note, I just didn't want to talk over people who were really hetting into the music, futhermore, mine is only one opinoin, and I think from now on I'll just keep my opinions to myself and not post to this forum again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fulDad (Binlajolla) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 04:08 pm: Edit Post

Sharon..Think how cheap and lowly evolved I feel having an Eargasm to Touch Of Gray...

If I won't let that deter me from going to shows and posting here...

Please don't let someones comments keep you from posting..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pete (Zeus) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 04:28 pm: Edit Post

>>I think from now on I'll just keep my opinions to myself and not post to this forum again.

Don't do that. You are entitled to have an off show. And you are more than entitled to share your experience here. Perhaps the way you worded it is what turned some people off to your review.

If you had said that you weren't feeling it and as a result you decided to spend the show out in the hall, it would have made sence to people. I think the fact that you are trying to review the music when you weren't inside the theater for a lot of it is what is bugging some people.

I never made it into the Fillmore. I wrote a review but it wasn't about the music that was played at the Fillmore. It was about my experience trying to get in and my thoughts on the matter.

It's too bad you didn't get into the music at the Warfield. I thought it was one of the better shows of the year and it was a lot tighter musically than the NYE show. Stick around. We could always use another point of view around here.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pete (Zeus) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 04:31 pm: Edit Post

Gdad, that Touch of Grey rocked. It came out of left field. Touch of Grey is a bust out by Phil and Friends standards and they tore it up at the Warfield. I thought that was the song you were thinking of. Hope you're having a groovy 2006.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By sharon (Flowrgrl) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 04:47 pm: Edit Post

If you had said that you weren't feeling it and as a result you decided to spend the show out in the hall, it would have made sence to people. I think the fact that you are trying to review the music when you weren't inside the theater for a lot of it is what is bugging some people.

I went to the hall because I wasn't getting into the music that night, I guess I should back up a bit, I don't like people spaeking around me especially if I'm really into a show, so I went out in the hall to visit with friends, but I did't spend the whole night out there, and while there were some moments that sounded good on a whole for me it wasn't the greatest, it happens. I've refrained from ever posting reviews before because the experience is completely diferent for everyone. Musically speaking, the show sounded great, for me personally it didn't make me touch the outer limits of the universe... I use to go to shows(GD/otherones etc.)and spin so hard that not only did I touch the outer limits, I touched god...its hard to explain, but this one night out of so many it just didn't happen for me... but I'm glad if it did for others, and I wish it could have been,,,but it wasn't


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joshua Muscat (Skullcap) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 04:55 pm: Edit Post

Hey Sharon... I am not upset with you in any way, nor would I encourage you to not post your opinions. I am an avid musician, who happens to delite in unusual speaker set ups. Because of this I have developed a fairly intricate understanding of how sound travels through space, and is effected by objects. It is in part because of this awareness that I felt the need to challenge the assertation that you heard every note in the lobby... it simply defys the laws of physics... the high end of the sound spectrum is diminished when sound passes through solid objects... you end up with a muted/bass heavy sound wave. I notice a huge difference in the sound at the warfield if I have to get up to go to the bathroom during a set (heaven forbid!). Another point to consider is that the sound in the theater is a carefully crafted piece of art. The artists (which include the band, crew, and especially the person working the mixing board) are presenting their art to be experienced from that vantage point of being within the theatre. When you move out of that space, you are not longer whitnessing the art in it's intended form. There is a lot of VERY subtle tweaking of the sonic space that goes on during these shows... this gets lost in the hall. It would be similar to looking at a painting through transparent yellow glass. It might look cool, but it is no longer an acurate representation of the carefully chosen colors of the artist. That is why when I hear you say that the music was not good, but you heard most of it from the hallway... I think to myself...'yeah, but they were not really there'. My hope is that you do not feel put down by this, but perhaps gain tools with which you might better enjoy the music. The show at the warfield was such a compelling experience for me that I would want for others tho have the oportunity to enjoy what I did. Everyone takes the music a different way though, and that is ok by me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By sharon (Flowrgrl) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 05:11 pm: Edit Post

Because of this I have developed a fairly intricate understanding of how sound travels through space, and is effected by objects. It is in part because of this awareness that I felt the need to challenge the assertation that you heard every note in the lobby... it simply defys the laws of physics... the high end of the sound spectrum is diminished when sound passes through solid objects... you end up with a muted/bass heavy sound wave.

I too have studied the physics of sound, in school my theme was music and popular culture, one of the classes was "Sounds in the Environment" so I understand about sound traveling through space, and how even where one stands in a theatre can determin the way a piece of music is heard. I live for music, though I am not a musician.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By sharon (Flowrgrl) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 05:32 pm: Edit Post

I appreciate all your comments actually, its made me think about how I should phrase my thoughts...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By UncleJohn (Deadekated) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 07:41 pm: Edit Post

How does sound travel through smoke??? It was pretty smokey where I was sitting. I also sat alot through these shows, as i was with a person who was really sick. Sometimes i felt like i was out of my body and tuned out, but the entire experience was great. It seems like one needs a thick skin to post here. Zeus, maybe you should change your major from film to psychology. It's all how you put it out there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Scalcione (Rscalcione) on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 10:04 pm: Edit Post

I was front row all night in front of Joan. Loved this show, and was around some stellar folks who were all digging the music. Phil's face and funkified movements during the opening notes of "Cold Rain & Snow" was the perfect opening. Barry & Larry were totally dialed in on the "Unbroken Chain," I appreciate what someone said earlier about the way they compliment each other, rather than clocking in. That was noticeable all night, and during the NYE show too. "New Speedway" rocked, Joan does got soul, all the Joan naysayers need to bounce. She is cooool. Sweet Mandolin playing from Larry on the intro and in "UJB," "Magnolia Mountain," was gorgeous. I can't understand the whining about Help>Slip, I loved it. "Gimme Shelter" was hot, and the floor was a rockin'. Thank you Phil, and you gotta love the Warfield!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fulDad (Binlajolla) on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 01:06 am: Edit Post

..>>..the floor was a rockin'..<<..

Yes indeed...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JANE SMITH (Sage_girl) on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 06:28 am: Edit Post

the floor was a rockin yes indeed it left a smoking crater of my mind


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Scalcione (Rscalcione) on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 10:24 am: Edit Post

yeah! And that is no rumour!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JANE SMITH (Sage_girl) on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 05:32 pm: Edit Post

Yeah! It was that Phil/Warfield loving feeling!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By EssEphReek (Essephreek) on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 12:50 pm: Edit Post

>>I just didn't want to talk over people who were really getting into the music

Right on. Nothing worse than the CHATTERING IDIOTS who infest SF shows. Clearly, you are neither.

>>the floor was a rockin yes indeed it left a smoking crater of my mind

I can report that even the nosebleed section was rocking at that show!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By db (Blackdawg) on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 08:48 pm: Edit Post

My favorite of the Run and more of what I came 3 thousand miles to hear than the other two.The floor was indeed rockin',don't recall sitting at all.UBC in the first set totally caught me off guard very fine .Other highlights for me were the Mag.Mt.NSB and Lovelight.It was my first Warfield show and now I can see what all the fuss is about.The Box of Rain was awesome and timely as that was what we stepped out into.I was smitten by the sweet red head who shared her umbrella with me during the break.Her persimmon raincoat and warm smile are forever etched.Here's to you sweetie.XXXOO.Ah the magic.
Nice reviews EVERYONE, Thanks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JANE SMITH (Sage_girl) on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 06:42 am: Edit Post

Glad you made it 3000 miles to see a Warfield show finally...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ross Zimmer (Somanyroads) on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:35 pm: Edit Post

Truly inspired by the dialogue, I tread cautiously with my first entry at this site. I too took a 3000 mile journey, from Philly, to see Phil the way he should be seen. I came with an open mind to see him in San Francisco with some of my oldest and closest friends, from Oakland, Montana and some new found friends from Oregon. I have been to countless shows since the mid 80s and found this show (after enjoying the Fillmore show) as one that I still find my mind flashes back to with unbelievable fondness. There was something so truly spiritual about that night that to this day it still takes me away, when I most need it and when I least expect it. It was not one moment nor one song but the show as a whole that still triggers some deeper emotion for me. I did not see the show as who was playing but felt the passion of the music - Cold and Rain and Snow was blistering (much like a powerful Shakedown Street the prior eve) and Loser was artfully performed; Magnolia Mountain with Joan at the helm was heartfelt and I still feel a timeless conncection to the Help On the Way trek. A perfect show? Of course not. A show that I will always treasure? Absolutely. We have been spoiled and I feel lucky to still get this escape, independent of the Friends involved, as long as you all and mine are there with me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gr8fulDad (Binlajolla) on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:19 am: Edit Post

Somanyroads..Nice to see you..

Warfield was for a few of us our Fritz show....

and yes it is hard to break it down for me as well..it was en total a powerful evening..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ross Zimmer (Somanyroads) on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 11:57 pm: Edit Post

Gr8fulDad

Thank you for the kind words at what I am sure was both a difficult and moving time for you - I still reflect so strongly on this show, sharing this music with such a positive response from so many(especially the jam late in Unbroken Chain and the moving final verse of Magnolia Mountain) that I feel it does in some ways even transcend the very special place we may have for it at this time. I can only hope the Philly Tower shows are as kind to all of us (as they have been in the past) and allow to taste the swirling passion of Phil's music enjoined with our community so alive once again.

Be well.