saw phish here in 94, damm is this place small... have fun

No offense to Bobby and his fans,but PLEASE let JK sing the Jerry tunes......PLEASE !!!!!!

Great site, thanks for the updates!!!! Wish we had a stream, anyone know why etree took down 2/13 so quick? thank god I dlaoded it

Here is what it looked like when they openned the tour in Miami

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn-0LwuH_S0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyd7kx1cmGU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgBiZRGE1dU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg7EnrO5vhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeXsWmeGDnM

2/13 is back up,taper fixed files

Cant wait for Monday,the band should be fresh after a much needed night off!

Psyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyched!

I thought they were good but seemed very tired at Stabler. Looking forward to tomorrow's show with maybe some more up tempo songs.

anyone know if they sell beer inside this venue?

i dont think so, was only there once in 94 for Phish, tough security i remember, but that was mostly outside in the lot....

No beer

Anyone know if security is tight inside the venue?

Jack Straw

J-Straw way due. So is HCS. Hope you get them both tonight. Have a great show all in attendance.

Security will probably be tight but if you play it mellow you should be able to do what you wish.

Slight sprinkling going on, just dropped a car off in the lot so we could get a space close to the building and avoid a long walk in the cold rain after the show. Shakedown was set up by 4:00, hopefully the rain will hold off so we can walk down from a friends house that is about 3/4 of a mile away.

Called the box office, no beer. They sell it at BB games in a restricted area but I guess they didn't want the hassle. Seems short sighted to me, they're losing a lot of money.

'round -n- 'round is wayyyyy over due

No Beer? No Problem!

Introducing the IDP!
(Individual Drink Packet)

Get liquored up at the show in 3 easy steps!

1)Fill several baggies with about a shot & a half each of your favorite distilled spirit that mixes well with the available drinks at the concession stand soda fountain.

2)Tie baggies VERY WELL (No leakers please) and place in pockets, down front of pants, in hat or, ladies, in the bra works very well!

3)Once inside, Purchase your favorite soda, take out a baggie, bite the corner off and SQUEEZE into the cup, Sit back, relax and enjoy your cocktail on the down low!

IDP's have served me well at all concerts, sporting events, school plays, Ballets and Operas since 1987!!

you should market that missing

Sell em on shakedown before the show, eh...???

Hmmmmmmm

a bottle should fetch at least 5-10 baggies for what== say a fin each?

LET JK SING JG!

Have a great home show Thom!

misingfinger, ive been practicing IDP for several years now! Great minds think alike. ;)
A large ziplock works well and can hold several ounces. keep the air out so it lays flat and strap it to your belly or down the front of your pants.

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle

i sure hope they save cold rain and snow for tomorrow////////and jack straw

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet

This Estimated must be huge!

Huge... or 8 minutes long?

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm

Looks like a nice start..again

estimated started at 8:05 according to my text

Imus Jer, excellent!
I always love the looks you get inside the show when you whip it out!

not a much as I love having an ice cold cocktail on the rail though....

Been listening to the last few nights. After Furthur review... WOW >>> can’t stop humming Reuben and Cherise, Viola Lee Blues etc. They have truly gelled.

Dogs in a pile!! Nothing left to do.....

Oh, so it was 10 minutes long?

My mistake. Epic.

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway

nice..

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter

where are the streams?

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter
Cosmic Charlie

oh that is sweet so far huh. Pls say that John sang BP

who sang black peter????

misingfinger - especially with the prices for alcohol at these venues... great for sporting events too where they usually don't frisk ya. get some some crazy looks as well as laughs but well worth it.

5 bucks says bobby did

Instead of using baggies that have potential to leak, use Rum Runners... Picked some up for a cruise, brought our own liquor, saved hundreds of dollars...

http://www.rumrunnerflasks.com/

How was the charlie? Tasty set. Almost as tasty as the huge bottle of wine I took to Amherst as an IDP. Double seal ziplocs are the rage.

rumrunnerflasks.com thanks dave, I'll have to check em out

rumrunnerflasks.com thanks dave, I'll have to check em out

your on $5 me
JK!

Bobby did, but actually he sounded really GOOD!

Bobby sang it at Bethlehem...

kinda hard to shove that rumrunnerflasks.com into your pants (if your a guy with no room) -that cap seems like it would get in the way

I owe ya $5 me buddy!!!!!!!!!

how bout candyman--John? better be

Well, I wouldn't put the one liter Runners down your pants. That might draw attention and be awkward to walk, but the others aren't noticeable at all. The smaller ones have caps with a diameter size of maybe a nickel or a dime (for the really small ones).

plastic bags or rum runners sound like a great idea, Richard - where do you hide a whole bottle of wine?

Thanks Dave

lol - there's rumrunners t shirts! Would a bouncer know if you were wearing the shirt and practicing IDP?

When is the last time any of the boys played in frickin Delaware?-except of course Ratdog

I bet the venue is hot liek the 1st set!

Practicing IDP....LOL

Yes, I'm an IDP practitioner.

just got home, hello to everyone and hello mike

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter
Cosmic Charlie
Set 2:
Golden Road

oh yeah Blow the roof off this place--Hi Joe!

this is a great setlist, love it when they start a second set with golden

a friend told me Jack Straw opened second?

Golden Road
Crazy Fingers>
Pants On The Ground - BW

Tom, Two double lock ziplocs. In this case I just put them in my Jacket. But after the search in Amherst I'd probably put them in front, halfway down so-to-speak. Works great!

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter
Cosmic Charlie
Set 2:
Golden Road
Jack Straw

Just placed my order for the rum runner stadium pack! they say 5 buiz days shipping time.... Portland show 2 weeks from tonight!

Thanks for the tip, I'm excited to try em out!
They'll make great christmas presents!

One man gathers what another man spills- I smell a stephen coming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Marriott_Center_ 1.JPG

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter
Cosmic Charlie
Set 2:
Golden Road
Jack Straw
Cold Rain and Snow

oops wrong link to bob carpenter center
http://www.bluehens.com/sportsinfo/facilities/bcc- pictures.html

wow! stay true boyz

i smell bertha

any pics TaperRob? Love ya man

Yes, the stadium pack is definately the way to go.

wow. Home of the Fightin Blue Hens! Looks like my high school gymnasium. Would love to see a show there. Nice pic Mike.

yeah no shit Small but steep huh?

im thinkin Cryptical Envelopment

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter
Cosmic Charlie
Set 2:
Golden Road
Jack Straw
Cold Rain and Snow
Peaceful Valley

ahh

wonder what the sounds like in there

Photo Credit : Dean Abrams

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter
Cosmic Charlie
Set 2:
Golden Road
Jack Straw
Cold Rain and Snow
Peaceful Valley
Sugaree

gotta be a dew or a stephen coming.

is bob singing sugaree too?



sorry for the cynisism

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter
Cosmic Charlie
Set 2:
Golden Road
Jack Straw
Cold Rain and Snow
Peaceful Valley
Sugaree
Truckin

did last time ;{

taperrob reporting revolution...

revolution>Terrapin

Mike, in response to your earlier post- JK on Candyman?, JK did it in SF, I felt JG's spirit in the house! He prob did it tonite.

Sorry, they jumped the gun. No truckin!!

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter
Cosmic Charlie
Set 2:
Golden Road
Jack Straw
Cold Rain and Snow
Peaceful Valley
Sugaree
Revolution

mike said...oops wrong link to bob carpenter center
http://www.bluehens.com/sportsinfo/facilities/bcc- pictures.html

..............................................

I saw some of those in the bottom photo of the link at some eighties shows

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter
Cosmic Charlie
Set 2:
Golden Road
Jack Straw
Cold Rain and Snow
Peaceful Valley
Sugaree
Revolution
Terrapin Station

if you come to the mohegan sun show, and you have some cash and time there is a place just down the stret on RT 2 called "Custy's" all you can eat steak and lobster. killer food

have a good nite all

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter
Cosmic Charlie
Set 2:
Golden Road
Jack Straw
Cold Rain and Snow
Peaceful Valley
Sugaree
Revolution
Terrapin Station
Throwing Stones

Stones

MAN THEY MUST REALLY HATE DELAWARE.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA NWO SHSSHSHSUSHI AND COEMT O PAPA.9~

Box O Rain encore

you would know...dude.

end of the set folks...

God Bless Cody!

encore = Tom Thumb Blues!!!!

Bob Carpenter Center
Newark, Delaware 02/22/2010
Set 1:
Here Comes Sunshine
I Need a Miracle
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter
Cosmic Charlie
Set 2:
Golden Road
Jack Straw
Cold Rain and Snow
Peaceful Valley
Sugaree
Revolution
Terrapin Station
Throwing Stones
Encore:
Donar Rap
Just Like Tom Thumbs Blues

2nd encore = Ripple

Nice! Tom Thumb! When your lost in the rain in Juarez and its Easter time too...

maybe they like Delaware????

"that path is for....your steps alone"

Right on with Tom Thumbs Blues Phil
Looks like there is still plenty of gas left in the tank for the last week on the east coast.

Set I:
Here Comes Sunshine>
I Need a Miracle>
Estimated Prophet
Candyman
Maggies Farm
Alabama Getaway
Black Peter
Cosmic Charlie

Set II:
Golden Road>
Jack Straw>
Cold Rain and Snow>
Peaceful Valley>
Sugaree
Revolution>
Terrapin Station>
Throwing Stones

Encore:
Just Like Tom Thumbs Blues
Ripple

im going back to new york city....

Im movin on to new york city..

I do believe Ive had enough. g nite.

Ah, this was a great show. God bless John K!

what a set list!!!!

the most cops ever inside of a show damn ridiculous and outside they were hasseling everybody the music may have been good but they were like the gestapo

Sorry, I was there. Some highlights, but the boys are tired. First 4 songs of the 1st set really flowed, after that it was more of a struggle. BP in the first set, well played, but it's too heavy. Second set uneven.

Where to begin with the review of this show?

Got to the show right as the lights dropped. Ran to my seat and found the lovely Huckleberry and JLP chillin. Got passed some sunshine and then here it came.

HCS was a pretty mellow opener. Crowd was super mellow. Was a mix between lots of college kids, professors types, hardcore showgoers, and couples out to see their one dead show of the year. The Monday night factor certainly played a part in the mellowness because the crowd was mainly locals.

The security was pretty much non-existant which was nice. The sound was top notch, and I also noticed some light rigs being used that I had not seen in the beginning of tour (phish type spotlights shining into crowd vs the rings superimposed on the background).

Miracle was standard. Dug it though.

Estimated started out with a pretty slow tempo as typical of most post-70's estimated. Took a while for the band to find a groove in this song. Really enjoyed the end and JK's guitar playing.

Mood was still pretty mellow at this point. Candyman began and was fantastic. The mood was sensitive at this point.

There are times when I feel like Furthur is sooo dialed in with the audience. So much that when the audience is out of time with the music, you can tell it affects Bobby and JK. I've seen it affect Bobby multiple times in the last couple shows, but I actually like it.

To me, it means that they still have to bust their ass and are NOT dialing the songs in. They are listening to each other and the mood of the audience. So much so, that they are vulnerable to good/bad shifts in the time/space/emotions paradigm of the show. That sensitivity fosters some pinnacle moments that are simply mind blowing. I've been listening obsessively to Furthur sbds over the last two weeks because I just love the interplay.

Maggies Farm was next. Love the song selection at this point -- I always love daydreaming at shows when lyrics have metaphorical similarities to my life. Phil has an extremely bouncy bassline for furthur's arrangment of the song.

Now the meat of the first set:
Alabama Getaway! Jeff was a madman on the keys for this. JK ripped on the guitar. Loved it. They ripped this up!

Black Peter--- crazy to hear this. All I could think about was the megatrip and Robert Hunter discussion on the zone today, and what a weird coincidence it was to hear this. Was friggin stoked. Could have done without Bob singin, but whatever. I couldn't stop thinking about Jerry helping Bob Hunter come down from his trip by playing acoustic guitar to him.

Cosmic Charlie was a standard. Not the biggest fan of Charlie closers at all, (in fact hate it as a closer), but it was decent.

i must also mention an act of kindness by a guy next to me at the show. During the commotion of Alabama Getaway, my iphone flew out of my pocket while I was dancing. Guy comes up to me during Black Peter and asked if it was mine. Couldn't believe it -- so goshdarn awesome for him to return it!!! I quickly made sure a green hit was passed his way immediately.

Golden Road began the second set and was pretty standard.

Furthur does a great Jack Straw. JK and Chimenti extend the jams for quite a while before the last verse. This version is great. While it is not as powerful sounding as Atlanta, it is sublime nonetheless.

Cold Rain and Snow was pretty standard. Similar to Charlotte version and I dug it. Certainly was appropriate after driving 4 hours through super rainy rush hour traffic.

I'm admittedly new to Peaceful Valley. Looking forward to listening to it again, but I dug it at the time.

Sugaree was the highlight of the set for me. Absolutely love the interplay between Phil Bobby JK and Chimenti. They do a lot of justice to this song and it was neat to hear how JK does the sugaree buildup. Great to hear the familiar bobby chords against the backdrop of Phils basslines. Wasn't the MOST intense sugaree I've ever seen, but it certainly had some great buildups. Crowd was stoked.

Revoloution was a little struggling. I'm not sure what is exactly lacking for me when this band covers the Beatles' catalog, but theres something not quite right about it. The tempo is off or something.

BUT Zoe Ellis and Sunshine Garcia Becker make all the songs friggin awesome, even the Beatles ones. I have grown to adore these two. Their lyrics are sooo subtle and non-intrusive at all. Voices that are just supposed to be there -- friggin sounds from heaven. It just fits perfectly.

Terrapin was awesome, but it was admittedly a little hard for me to stomach after seeing Phil rip up Terrapin so much with his other friends.
Wasn't sure what to attribute it to. Russo had a slightly slow tempo. Love Jay Lane and his energy, but he wasn't into this and i could tell.

Terrapin was a little disjointed at times. Didn't seem to flow perfectly, nor inspire the crowd to very intense levels during the inspiration part. Sublime song, but not quite what I expected for my first time hearing Furthur's rendition. j

So the kids they dance and shake their bones
while its all too clear we're on our own. At this point, I truly felt on my own energy wise within the crowd. Everyone was sapped. Of the 20 people surrounding me, 19 were sitting down. The guys in front of me and huck didn't move their butts off their seat the entire show. Same with the people behind us. Can't complain because it gives a full view of the show. But its also a lot more fun the crowd can't get enough.

I think the crowd had enough at this point. Like I mentioned previously about how sensitive Furthur is to the crowd -- well they had a pretty ugly stop during Throwing Stones, that they recovered alright from, but either Weir or Russo f'ed up.

If you're lookin' to get silly
You better go back to from where you came
Because the cops don't need you
And man they expect the same.

Love Tom Thumb's Blues. Love to hear Phil sing this and while it wasn't a rabble rousing energetic encore, it was a nice treat.

Ripple was a fantastic treat too. Just beautiful.

I'm going back to New York City
I do believe I've had enough

Thanks for the detailed review Slydell!!

Setlists are strange, but what else to expect when non-musicians are writing the setlists. Whatever, it certainly makes for some surprises, lol.

Music sounded great, both the band and the mix. Phil was on fire yet again. The night off definitely showed. He was just rippin' on almost everything. HCS had a nice jam as did several other tunes. I found myself floating happily without gravity, i.e. liftoff was achieved, to borrow a catch phrase.

JK is fitting in nicely and smoothly. Nice to hear these songs played with guitar in the style of Jerry. JK handles it all very well.

Bobby was a flawless as he gets, though I didn't hear much of his guitar in the mix and he seemed to be playing not much of anythin intresting. Still he was solid, which is nice to see and hear.

Chimenti continues to shine.

Russo is solid, though I wish he'd do a little more syncopated/polyrhythmic/jazzy/world stuff. A little boring, but solid. And a great guy.

Lane...whatever, kinda like having a jack in the box on stage..or a bobblehead!

The ladies on backup vocals were very good. Blended in nicely, rounding ou t the sound without being a distraction.

Overall, very enjoyable, a significant improvement over Stable, and I am psyched for AC. Two days of music, gambling and just me and the Mrs.\

Show completely lacked flow....very disappointed...even 3rd row center seats couldn't save this show for me

WEAK act at best.

Nice reviews folks.

Mellow scene outside, they even allowed a complete bar selling shots to be set up which surprised me. First sign that security was going to be tough was the full body pat down coming in, a bit more extensive then usual.

Place was smaller then I remembered, really not a bad seat in the house. We were over on the Phil's side about three rows up off the floor and 15 rows back, great view of the stage and you could see everybody really well. Security was omnipresent in the areas between the side and floor seats, they were friendly but everywhere and it was obvious that their plan was to make their presence felt. Didn't see or smell any smoke in the main hall all night although Keith told me someone over was his way was indulging. The middle aisle on the floor seemed completely unpatrolled, packed with people all night, but the edges of the floor where very tightly controlled. Only saw one person get hassled but the oppressive vibe, while not overwhelming, was certainly present all night.

HCS was a great opener and the sound was fantastic from the get go, a bit heavy on the low end for the first few minutes but they dialed it in really fast and it stayed great all night. That was a nice surprise. Very impressed with John right away, great tone and his balance was perfect. Nice jamming, hopeful sign of things to come? Miracle kind of set the tone for the night for me; well played songs that I didn't particularly want to hear. But it had a nice little jam out of it, and the Prophet was great, long, thick jam, slow beat, bit fat sound. All good up to this point. Then Candyman which was played fantastically but again, just not what I was hoping for at this point. But very well played, really couldn't complain at all.

But the Maggie's was a bad fit at this point and the place where the set took a dive for me. Yes, really well played (again), but the new tempo just plods along and sucked the energy out of the room. If they had done a traditional "Big River" beat version they could have torn the place down but this thing just kind of sat there for six minutes or so. The barn burning Alabama saved the vibe and really got the crowd going but again, yet another song I'm indifferent about. Black Peter was superb in every way, the execution was perfect, but again.... Cosmic Charlie was really well done and was finally something I actually wanted to hear but it wasn't as well played as some of the earlier material that I was indifferent to. So my impression after the first set was great sound, great playing, unhappy with the song selection. And as Keith mentioned above there just didn't seem to be any flow to the set, a problem which only got worse in the second set.

Break was fun, saw some friends and discovered that the bathrooms were where all the smoking was going on, you couldn't walk in there without getting high. This seemed really strange, that security would be everywhere except the obvious place, but at this point it started fitting the theme of the night. Had a great talk with Keith and a few other Zoners (hey FaFa!).

Golden Road was a nice opener but it portended more to come of what I didn't enjoy about the first set. Jack Straw was a highlight, blew the roof of the place, big sing along, really well done. I was hoping for something adventurous here but was again disappointed in my desires with a well played Cold Rain and Snow, appropriate but again not what I was looking for (see a theme appearing here?). Peaceful Valley was well done with a nice jam out of it but again didn't help what I was thinking of as a badly paced set, an impression that continued when they went into Sugaree. Once again, a blow out version, was probably the high point of the night for many, but not what I wanted to hear in the middle of the second set. Or Revolution, although it sounded just like an '83 version. well done. My brother actually left at this point and I couldn't blame him, but with the first notes of Terrapin he came running back. This saved the set for me but it was a too little too late, and as impressive as John had been all night this was the one song that came across as almost perfunctory in its delivery, although it has so much structure that it's hard not to at times. The middle melt down jam was what I had been waiting for all night and really the only spacey jam of the night other then the opening HCS and a bit out of Peaceful Valley. I've been ambivalent about Throwing Stones since the early 80's when I heard it way to much so I wasn't happy with that choice either and really only stayed to see what they would do after wards, which turned out to be nothing! Kind of summed up the night for me. Encores were pleasant, nice to have a double.

So what to make of all this? Despite my grips about the song selection I had a great tine, certainly the best time I've ever had at a show where there was so much played that I didn't care to hear. The band sounds fantastic, this was a happy surprise to me. Energetic, tight, clear, and powerful. I liked John much more then I expected to, he adds a lot and has a great presence. The drums were fine, and Jay didn't seem to be jumping around a lot. Jeff seemed down in the mix a lot but when he was up he was really good. The girls added nice harmonies at just the right time without being obtrusive.

But the real strength of this line up, and the reason that having John is so important, is that Phil and Bobby and playing together like I haven't seen since Jerry died. It seemed to me that this was what was really important about this line up, and really the main reason for it to exist. The important thing isn't so much that there's a guy that sounds like Jerry in the guitar slot; the important thing is that by doing so you are creating an atmosphere where Bobby and Phil can fall back into the style that they play together in best. I spent most of the night watching them and it was just tremendous to hear the old interplay that is second nature to them (and for us to hear), and they were both obviously having a great time. I've seen every line up that they've played together in since 1995 and this is the only one where I had the impression that there was no struggle for them to mesh like they're meant to. So this is what I like about this line up and why I would encourage others to see and and support it. Bob and Phil have put together a band that allows them to play in the style and technique that they are accustomed to and that is only really possible if you have someone in the lead guitar slot that can fill those Jerry spaces. Weir and Lesh are like two gears in a watch that only work together perfectly if they have a "Jerry" gear to interact with, and John provides that in spades. That was why I was able to enjoy even the songs that I didn't particularly want to hear. I still got to watch Bob and Phil interact like I hadn't seen for a long time.

Certainly wished for more free form jamming and hopefully I'll get it next time, but came away mightily impressed with how this line up has come together. And kudos to the sound guys, they had that building tuned up all night and that also made for a great time.

Met Fafa and a friend of his, spent a little time with Keith, and I think there was one other person I meet from the Zone that I'm spacing on, sorry for forgetting you, great meeting everybody.

And it was great having this party in my home town after 37 years of following the scene. Hope that everybody had a good time.

Black peter in the first set? plus estimated ? I believe they found the rightful place back in the day and should remain in the Second set . That would be my only complaint about the night . But looks great

The complaint department closed down fifteen years ago!!!
peace!!

For another perspective, I just talked to a women that works in my office that went. I had two extra seats in the 11th row and offered them to her. She's my age (mid 50's) and use to party back in the day so I knew she might be interested. Anyway, she had a blast, loved the scene and said that all of the people that she met couldn't have been nicer. Loved watching the dancers and the scene in general and was very complimentary about how nice and courteous everyone was. They (her husband and her) where the obvious outsiders and she said that everyone went out of their way to explain things and fill them in on what was happening, and of course the song selection meant nothing to her, she just enjoyed it and thought that it sounded wonderful. It was really great to hear that she had such a positive experience and that our scene can reflect so well to those who stop by occasionally to check it out. She said she felt like a tourist and that all of the natives were there to help her out.

Fantastic.

My friends best line about the crowd: "Everyone just seems to get into their happy place and then wiggles."

the boys played well, BUT the crowd energy was absent!!!! seemed like everyone in the place was coma toasted!!! must be the monday night factor. tons of dance room but very few people shaking their bones!! oh well looking forward to AC they better RIP IT UP!!!! no beer BIG PROBLEM!! the crowd is to old for a show without beer. COME ON! although i do like missingfinger's post.

Yes, the crowd did seem disconnected for a good deal of the night. I attributed this to the lack of lubrication (too much booze is bad, but a little can loosen up the crowd) as well as the fact that the sets had zero flow to them, really poorly constructed set lists (yes Jill, I'm talking to YOU) and that just didn't allow for any type of momentum to build in the crowd. The omnipresent security didn't help either, it's a little difficult to loosen up with goons staring you down at every turn.

Let the musicians write the set lists please.

I was at the Buffalo show, which followed a little more of the typical set/song placements we used to find familiar. I agree with the comments about screwing around with arrangements and set placements too much and creating buzz-kills as a result of experimentation/mental masturbation. There is a reason those tunes always got placed in certain parts of the sets, and were played in certain arrangements. It just worked. They had honed that stuff for a few decades. Now it's random and not necessarily in a good way most of the time. And most of the covers they are doing make them sound like an average bar band- not worth paying $60 for. Then there are the golden nuggets that make the whole show worth it- just like the "good old days". So ultimately, we end up in the same place, just less predictably. Maybe that's not such a bad thing- unless you're like me and into taking nostalgia trips. They're really not doing much that's new after all (except replacing the Dylan repertoire with Ryan Adams)- so why not showcase what worked best in the past instead of screwing around with it? This is dinosaur rock, after all.

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Furthur
Monday February 22, 2010
Official Taping Section behind soundboard
Bob Carpenter Sports/Convocation Center
Newark, DE

website:

http://www.furthur.net/

source: Superlux CM-H8K(omni capsules)> XLR> Edirol UA5 Oade digimod> Optical Cable> Nomad Jukebox 3> Audacity > CD wave editor

Recorded at 48 kHz 24 bit

converted to flac using Trader's Little Helper

Set 1:

Jam>
Here Comes Sunshine>
I Need a Miracle>
Estimated Prophet,
Candyman,
Maggie's Farm,
Alabama Getaway,
Black Peter,
Cosmic Charlie

Set 2:

Golden Road>
Jack Straw>
Cold Rain & Snow>
Peaceful Valley>
Sugaree,
Revolution>
Lady with a Fan>
Terrapin Station>
Throwing Stones

Encore:

Donor Rap,
Tom Thumb Blues>
Ripple

Tracks:

01.tuning 01:09
02. Jam 02:16
03. Here Comes Sunshine 10:42
04. I need a Miracle 05:25
05. Estimated Prophet 15:24
06. Candyman 08:08
07. Maggie's Farm 09:03
08. Alabama Getaway 06:54
09. Black Peter 15:00
10. Cosmic Charlie 06:13
11. Tuning 1:24
12. Golden Road 05:20
13. Jack Straw 08:23
14. Cold Rain and Snow 08:04
15. Peaceful Valley 06:41
16. Sugaree 13:58
17. Revolution 04:36
18. Terrapin Station (Lady with a Fan) 11:34
19. Terrapin Station 06:29
20. Throwing Stones 11:00
21. Crowd 01:54
22. Donor Rap 02:33
23. Tom Thumb Blues 06:34
24. Ripple 04:38

Total time 02:53:35

Taped and edited by Jeremy Banaszewski

I actually welcome playing around with song placements, etc., it keeps things fresh and surprising. But last nights set list is just a hodge podge of whatever seemed to be leftover with no rhyme or reason behind the selections or the placements. At my worst I was thinking that they were just trying to clear the plate of filler material before they got to NYC.

"Black peter in the first set? plus estimated ? I believe they found the rightful place back in the day and should remain in the Second set . That would be my only complaint about the night . But looks great"

Ugh, the Dead shared your attitude and it is the reason there is such sameness to their setlists from the 80s and 90s. One thing I love about Phish is that no song is confined to the first or second set.

Tom,

I felt the same way re: the set list at the Hampton show (you can see my review on that page). I felt like they were clearing out the Ratdog songs before Sat. night and then Cornell. I also felt like they would interrupt the flow of the set because "That's on the set list so we have to play it next". Is Jill Lesh really the one making the setlists? I missed the post where that was discussed? How was this confirmed? Just curious.

Phil said in an interview that appeared in the Wilmington News Journal that Jill and Bob's manager are the ones that are primarily responsible for putting the set lists together.

I find it unbelievable that people actually want there to be structure in the sets. To a degree, there always has been, but why? Why "Sugaree is 1st set only" type of thinking? Why not add that other level of improvisation? Ever take a look at PL&F set lists? Phil was screwing with EVERYTHING, and it was a breath of fresh air. I've said this in other review threads...the guy is a mastermind at playing chess with the songs. Completely unpredictable. Why would anyone want it any other way? Open that mother up, and see what it can really do!

Wanting structure simply implies that there is some sort of flow to the songs. No one wants to hear the same songs in the same place all the time, and you're right when you say that Phil's older set lists where a breath of fresh air. That's what was missing last night, a set list written by Phil. I don't care where Sugaree (or any other song) shows up, but I do care about what other songs were leading up to it and then following it. What we got last night was, for the most part, a bunch of traditional song structures with little improvisation either between them or within them. It had a very hard "stop and go" feel to it all night, hardly any transitions to speak of. And do we really want to hear Black Peter and Candyman in the same set with only two songs between them? And of these four songs:

Golden Road>
Jack Straw>
Cold Rain & Snow>
Peaceful Valley>

there wasn't one real transition between them. They simply started up the new song as soon as the last note of the previous song was played. Putting arrows after those songs is almost false advertisement. Same with the arrow after Revolution; there wasn't any transition into Terrapin, they simply started strumming the opening chord. Same going into Throwing Stones, which means that there was only one real transition on the entire second set, out of Peaceful Valley into Sugaree. And it was hardly great shakes. Not what I would expect out of these guys, and a really disappointing show after seeing the three that were played prior to this one.

What in the world do all you complainers want ??
I mean COME ON!! The boys are still touring you lucky dogs !!!
Enjoy it while it lasts . Every minute you can . I know I will . One day you'll only be left with recordings .
what does it matter what where or when they play whatever !!!ITS ALL GREAT .
wow i can't wait for more !

I don't know what show some of these complainers were at, but I thought it was a great nite, albeit with the usual highs and lows. I'm a 35 year vet and still just lovin the fact that Phil & Bob are still gathering the tribe.

Cosmic Charlie was very cool. Black Peter was an odd placement but Weir sang it well and no one bothered to mention---or maybe they failed to notice, that the "see hear how everything" verse was sung twice which means we got two cresendos instead of the one.

Golden Road, Revolution, Ripple all great stuff. Cold Rain too and Jack Straw kicked ass. Terrapin mid song jam got fairly far afield (thanks JK).

The guys who are bitchin about the set list apparently have no clue how long some of us waited to here some of the tunes the boys have been playing. What I would've given for an Eleven or an Unbroken Chain for the first 15 to 20 years of my tour life. Oh well, sometimes you don't appreciate what you have in front of you. I suggest you stop whining and enjoy it all while you still have the chance.

Was at the show last night and I echo Slydell's and Tom Melvin's comments above.

Not much flow to the show, but there were high points of some of the songs that I'll never forget. I'm not typically a big fan of Throwing Stones, but JK's solo was amongst the most beautiful things I've ever heard. Thank you. Also, the last minute or two of the Terrapin was wonderful, reminded me of the post Terrapin jams we got from 89-91, great rhythm.

Alabama was rockin'. Black Peter was a buzzkill at first, but wisdom told me that this was a nice way to pay tribute to old Jerr. And yes, there were two nice crescendos.

A well played collection of single songs, but not the dream sequences we have been blessed with from time to time. Every show can't be a masterpiece of our favorite songs. Heck knows the GD had plenty of those, too.

As one person wrote, be thankful we still have this, this a true bonus to hear our favorite music, especially in venues as small as this. It was less than a year ago that the Spectrum was sold out with these guys.

Thanks Bob, Phil, and the entire band, you're doing great stuff!

Folks,
I wasn't there so I have no business saying a word, but its not in my nature to shut up. Um did you see the set list? Unless everyone on stage was taking a break while playing it sounds as though they brought IT again. At least some of IT....

Once again kids, Phil was doing this while many of you (my apologies to my age group and older) were shitting mustard. Thank your lucky stars he chooses to continue. We are all blessed. What a band...night after night....Jerry would be proud!

Peace!
Hoff

wow, love Tom Thumbs the best!

"Um did you see the set list?"

The one that has six traditionally first set songs with no jams whatsoever for the first 3/4 of the second set? That set list?

I said it was well played. I said it sounded fantastic. If I think they delivered a half assed set list I think I have a right to say so as well.

And as long as I'm going to be called a whiner after 37 years of putting in my dues (I stopped crapping anything mustard colored around 1957) just let me say that it seems to me that some folks would rather adopt a peasant mentality and accept whatever crumbs the Ferrari driving rock stars deign to throw their way and be happy about it without comment. Not me, sorry. And seeing the Radio City set list from last night does nothing to dissuade me from the thought that they were deliberately saving the better material for NYC.

All too often I see people at shows dependent on a boisterous energetic crowd for it to be good. They stand there, like a statue, and watch everyone else. At furthur, i have seen LOTS of 40+ year old males who do this and wonder why the shows lack energy. How do i know this, well I saw phish 17 times last year and i could not ignore the crowd differences anymore. You get what you give at a show. I think the audience is burnt out on the song catalog and more young newbs would help out. This was the case at all five of six shows I've seen so far -- but Hampton had the vibe I'm talking about. I'm amazed Hampton doesn't get more love.

I heard that If you wanna get High with the band then you gotta get the band High too!

I agree with some of the setlist complaints. It seemed obvious that they were just clearing out the "crap" before going on to NY. Yeah, it was mostly played very well, but very little to get excited about. I thought the first half hour of the show was the best part, and this band doesn't come close to the GD on doing Estimated, imo. (Jerry's somewhat "evil" guitar work is missing, bigtime, here.) Great HCS > Miracle transition.

Black Peter's 2 "crescendos" didn't crescendo all that much, esp. the first one, which was completely devoid of any energy. The end, with Bob's 5 minutes of Run & See's was pretty humorous though, and it jammed out nicely. In no way, should BP *ever* last 15 minutes!

Alabama cranked. Cosmic was really good. I liked the Maggie's arrangement even if it did sound like Easy Answers with better lyrics.

Peaceful Valley was really great; love this song. Nice transition into Sugaree, but Bob should not go anywhere near this song, vocally.

Terrapin was really good, except.. what's with the keyboards dominating the ending jam? C'mon... no need to be cutesy here-- we need LOTS of guitar. I'm getting a bit tired of Chimenti; too much of him, imo.

All in all, a disappointing show. First set was better than the second set. Great venue, great sound, but the setlist and the rain and the traffic created a too-mellow scene, imo.

"clearing out the crap" nice choice of words bzl
wow i cant belive what im reading . STAY HOME AND GIVE ME YOUR TICKET . OR ACTUALLY SELL ME YOUR TICKET . TOM . next show you go to i suggest you loosen up take a deep breath , enjoy and dont listen so hard . These guys are doing the best they can FOR US!!!!!!!! Why wouldnt they ! geeze

Q: Why wouldnt they

A: Because Jill has decided it's better to take care of the New Yorkers.

I saw 5 shows this tour. 3 were excellent, and I compliment them when they deserve it, which is usually. Sorry you feel they are infallible. They're not!

I dont feel their infallible.Everybody has off nights . BUT
I just never call anything Greatful Dead crap!!
peace!

i can spell sometimes

I would have preferred every song from tonight's amazing second set over every song from this show's second set.

Thats why you got to go to ALL OF EM!!!

>>In no way, should BP *ever* last 15 minutes!

It was 15 minutes the first night of Denver and freakin smoked. Get over Bob signing it. He does a great job if you just get over the fact that John is not singing it.