2008-10-13 The Dead + Allmans - PSU - Obama Benefit

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dagan Selbach-Broad (Djdaganator) on Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 11:51 pm: Edit Post

thought I'd start this since its so close! I wish I could go. Is there going to be any type of televised thing for it?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Van Gorden (Roger) on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 10:26 pm: Edit Post

Just got a ticket for the Dead and Brothers it is almost like the Whatkins Glenn show in 70 on a much smaller scale but I missed that one. But not much chance to see Mickey and Billy as the duo behind the kit with the Beast and Micky's Big Hair, the string thing that makes that roaring sound. The Brothers are going to smoke as the opener just check out the set lists from the Phil/Brothers tour. And there will be banners and all kinds of Rally stuff for the Presidential stuff due to only weeks to the big election. It will be a night to remember and all kinds of combinations of players could happen and the atleast Trucks and Haynes may play together with the Dead. Warren will be filling in for Jerry and Jeff C. on the hammond B-3 organ, he is hot on that, like Brent M. from the old days. No songs are untouchable they can play anything and Phil does. Cream puff war or standing on the moon, DarkStar/so many roads/Darkstar wow! I got a ticket Thurs. online with tic master 50 with 3.50 surcharge, good price and 5:30 start time. Bryce Jordon Arena is a cool place, see you there and Change Rocks! What a long strange trip it will be. Roger VG from Brackney PA touring since 9-2-1980 Rochester, NY cut out of 1st day of college to see the dead from Suny-Binghamton. How time flys when you are having a ball!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By chris (Cincinnatired) on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 11:22 pm: Edit Post

good set

Promised Land
Cold Rain and Snow
Uncle Johns Band
Dire Wolf
Me and My Uncle
GDTRFB
Deal



Playin
Throwing Stones
Scarlet>Fire
Billy and Mickey
Built To Last
Truckin>
Viola Lee sickness............

Bid you goodnight


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Hoffman (Hoffmanmr) on Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 05:16 pm: Edit Post

Anyone know if there's gonna be a webcast of this thing?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Papaleo (Dayjob1978) on Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 10:03 pm: Edit Post

Leaving NYC tomorrow morning at 11! Can't wait!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Johnny 2 Times (Mystickaya) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 01:25 pm: Edit Post

The show starts at 2:30(PST).. Let get updates going! I'll be at work. Anyone able to upload pics live from their phone??


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By pinman (Pinman) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 02:34 pm: Edit Post

Any streaming live video of this one?

How about a US Blues>Shakedown opener for a political statement?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mandala (Mandala) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 03:15 pm: Edit Post

from deadnetcentral:

soundcheck:

Unbroken Chain
St. Stephen
Dark Star


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mandala (Mandala) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 03:21 pm: Edit Post

my bad. that was from ratdog.org...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By pinman (Pinman) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 03:40 pm: Edit Post

very nice s.c. ! folks are in for a treat- warren ripping on stephen, derek sliding around d.s... :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By pinman (Pinman) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 05:45 pm: Edit Post

Sirius just said they will have audio broadcast from Penn State today- channel 32- you can sign up for a temporary pass and listen for free.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By pinman (Pinman) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 06:05 pm: Edit Post

From PA Newspaper today:

"The parking lot outside the Bryce Jordan Center is filled with an eclectic mix of fans wearing bright tie-dye shirts and Obama paraphernalia—with some wearing both."

What, no "Palin" tie-die's?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nick (Lazybones8) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 06:29 pm: Edit Post

It doesn't sound like they'll be broadcasting the concert but rather, broadcasting FROM the concert.

Grateful Dead Channel at Change Rocks!

Tonight 6:00 pm ET

The surviving members of the Grateful Dead will reunite for a cause! They’ll perform again, along with members of the Allman Brothers Band, in a benefit concert benefit called “Change Rocks,” for Democratic presidential nominee, Barack Obama. Tickets are limited, but the Grateful Dead Channel will be on site to keep you updated with everything that’s going on at the historic event.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spliffy McGee (Spliffymcgee) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 06:53 pm: Edit Post

Yeah, nothing...bummer.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Johnny 2 Times (Mystickaya) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 07:32 pm: Edit Post

Billy onstage with ABB right now!!! 3 drummers!
x


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By pinman (Pinman) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 07:42 pm: Edit Post

revival, statesboro blues, black hearted woman, midnight rider, one way out, and it stoned me, dreams.....allmans set so far, billy sat in but not sure on what song- update from ratdog.org

4 drummers.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TOM (Crazedred) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 08:19 pm: Edit Post

Someone missed out on that Palin Tye Dye...
Could have racked at least a 200 spot before packing up to be out of sight

I wish I was there n yet I know I can hear it soon


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Herrling (Meltdown) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 09:21 pm: Edit Post

I'm on Sirius Ch. 32 right now and no broadcast (unless jerrry came back to life tonight to play Althea...). When you can't have something you only want it more...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By pinman (Pinman) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 09:25 pm: Edit Post

And no list yet from folks at the show...

Heard they soundchecked St Stephen, Darkstar and Unbroken Chain this afternoon.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george (Gms777) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 09:41 pm: Edit Post

A foolish heart will call on you to toss your dreams away.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mandala (Mandala) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 09:47 pm: Edit Post

ratdog.org says truckin' opener...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bucky (Bucky) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 09:53 pm: Edit Post

>>>>>Heard they soundchecked St Stephen, Darkstar and Unbroken Chain this afternoon.

Well, somebody's got a good head on their shoulder's tonight. :^)

BTW: Unbroken's a no-brainer with Warren's wailing ending.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Herrling (Meltdown) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 10:17 pm: Edit Post

Must be a pretty amazing show for "them" to not inform us "selfless bastards" who chose not to go to the show so that others could, about the setlist... LOL!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JKC (Jagrman) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 10:22 pm: Edit Post

Truckin, Us Blues, HSF


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Steigerwald (Blueledboy) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 10:48 pm: Edit Post

http://www.ratdog.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=1& t=171629

Truckin
US Blues
Help (Bobby forgot words)>
Slip>
Franklins
Playin
Dark Star w/ Mickey on Xylophone


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ......boing (Speedlimit) on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 11:04 pm: Edit Post

unbroken chain


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By larry (Larryo) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 12:15 am: Edit Post

Truckin
US Blues
Help (Bobby forgot words)>
Slip>
Franklins
Playin
Dark Star w/ Mickey on Xylophone
St. Stephen
Unbroken Chain
Other One
Throwing Stones

_________thanx_to_:______

http://www.ratdog.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=1& t=171629


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Scalcione (Rscalcione) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 12:30 am: Edit Post

Truckin >
U.S. Blues
Help on the Way >
Slipknot >
Franklin's Tower
Playing In The Band >
Dark Star >
St. Stephen >
Unbroken Chain >
The Other One >
Throwing Stones >
Playing reprise

E: Donor/Phil rap >
Bobby rap >
Touch of Grey >
Not Fade Away


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dz (Dashuzoff) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 12:37 am: Edit Post

thanks rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Herrling (Meltdown) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 12:38 am: Edit Post

Impressive set list, but details are still lacking! Was it only four people on stage or were they joined by some of the significant talent in the room?!? What was the atmosphere in the room? What political messages were conveyed? Enquiring minds want to know...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ronald B. Cowin (Ronaldcowin) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 01:08 am: Edit Post

Inquiring minds want to know.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Carrie Korsgaard (Ckphotogirl) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 02:33 am: Edit Post

I bailed out and sold my ticket at last minute today...I'm dying for more details of what I missed.
Anyone?!?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nod (Donster) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 02:34 am: Edit Post

It was the core 4 plus Warren & Jeff all night.
GRATE to see the boyz all back together. The set list was a whole lot better than the execution.

A number of moments that screamed "Jam me! Develop Me!" but no one answered the call. Several moments that might have taken off remained at the launch pad and without sufficient thrust to lift the jam .... tonight.

I look forward to tomorrows with this band. Sure loved yesterdays. today was a wobbly and uncertain step toward building a bridge between the two....

As a show stabding on its own, it will not be my favorite of the year - or even October.

Better than being anywhere else tho 8->


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Carrie Korsgaard (Ckphotogirl) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 02:49 am: Edit Post

Thanks!!
I'm holding out for Phil NYC and just announced today, NEW YEARS EVE here at home (SF).
Yowza!
Maybe they'll need some more rehearsals @Sweetwater again?! ha!
rob???
:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By sebastiananxiety (Sebastian) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 05:37 am: Edit Post

The ride from Philly to Penn State was beautiful-- clear skies and lots of farmland and steep hills with the Fall colors just starting to show.

The day was fun, but the Dead's performance seemed somewhere between "mediocre" and "trainwreck"

Mickey and Billy were often not quite together, this seemed to keep the band from gelling most of the evening. I saw this lack of drummer cohesion close up, because I had seats behind the stage. Billy and Mickey were the loudest thing in the mix for me.
(though others who had seats in the front complained they could barely hear the drums at all.)
When they were together, the old Rolling Thunder was a joy to behold but more often than not, throughout the evening they were a little (or a lot) off. Overall they sounded to tentative to power the band.

Yes the set list looks a lot better on paper than it sounded. It wasn't always outright bad, but it often sounded very tentative.

"Franklin's Tower" was the most fun and danceable tune of the evening for me. Phil delivered strong, loud vocals and the band stayed reasonably together after a wandering "Slipknot" and a ragged "Help on the Way" with Bobby completely forgetting to since the first line or two. It seemed like it hit him after the song had already started, "Oh, you want ME to sing lead...uh, ok, sure.....'She has no pain...'"

The highlight of the set for me was "Dark Star." It seemed like the strongest performance of the Dead's 2 hour set. I loved the lead in to Dark Star before Phil played the bass riff--- Mickey on Xylophone while Billy played a jazzy ride cymbal rhythm. Dark Star was about 16 minutes long with some good Warren leads. I liked the repeated "diamonds, diamonds, diamonds" vocals at the end. There was a full stop before St. Stephen despite the ">" people are listing here.

Another moment i really liked was the short Phil-led jam that linked Throwin with Playin. It was jazzy yet propulsive and had a very P&F feel to it.

The Dead were mediocre at best, but the Allman Bros sounded great. It was the first time I've seen them since the tour they did with Phil in 2001. And they were really tight, but then again they're an active touring band who play together dozens of times each year and have all the changes down while the Dead probably practiced a couple hours total at most for this gig.

Highlights of the Allmans set were Dreams with Ron Holloway guesting on sax, Jessica, and the Whipping Post encore.
These songs got the audience more vocally worked up than pretty much anything the Dead did.

The nearest and loudest "Brother" from my behind the stage perspective was Butch Trucks. And he killed it, endowing almost every song with a muscular swing and/or shuffle.

But the crowd was definitely there for the Dead. The arena didn't fill until the end of the Allmans set, most of the crowd stayed seated for the ABB, and I only saw 1 Allmans t shirt in the lot next to thousands of Dead Ts.

The lot was also full of tix for sale. Close to show time people couldn't even give tickets away, that's how plentiful they were.

There were also a surprisingly large amount of dirty parking lot tour kids (though my question was "where's the tour?") Do they all actually study agriculture at PSU in the off season? And among the lot kids were dozens of dogs. What idiot brings their dogs to a show? I've never understood this.

I'll write more about the show later but I have to be at work in a few hours so I'm gonna try to sleep for a moment.

In short, a good time, and a fun adventure, but the Dead will need a lot more practice if they want to tour successfully in 2009.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By _ (Verve13) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 07:34 am: Edit Post

Great review, Sebastian! Thanks!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Essephreak (Essephreek) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 09:28 am: Edit Post

Yeah, excellent review. How were the vibes amongst the core 4? Seems like if the drummers were off, that's probably more of a Mickey issue?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Vermonter (Strat13) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 10:19 am: Edit Post

Nailed the review Sebastian; nice work.

The vibes among the group seemed, to me at least, a bit funky. I only noticed a few points when the drummers were off, including much of Unbroken Chain, but I can't blame them, that song is crazy with the time signatures. To me it felt as if Bobby was shutting himself off from the rest of the group; he looked at Warren (on stage left) about 4 times the entire show, and Phil possibly double that. Much of the show he was turned around looking at his rig and throwing signals to the drummers (or something). He didn't seem to want to include Warren at all. Speaking of Warren, he was probably one of the most tentative aspects of the nights. His guitar playing was decent but certainly not leading the band anywhere; except for some choice moments his playing lacked any of the crackle or spirit that this music requires to really be filled out. He seemed only able to play 8-10 notes at a time before stopping, regrouping, and coming back with 8-10 more. Would have been great if Derek had come out too. It's okay though, a good time nonetheless, some good highlights, glad I went, just a little underwhelming.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JeremyDude (Jeremydude) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 10:28 am: Edit Post

Saint Sebastin,

Nice write up and comments. Cool to see someone who can relate the experience to all. Thanks for the input, looking forward to perhaps and April tour, hoping for that.
Peace N Roses - Jeremy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bucky (Bucky) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 10:54 am: Edit Post

>>>>>Speaking of Warren, he was probably one of the most tentative aspects of the nights. His guitar playing was decent but certainly not leading the band anywhere; except for some choice moments his playing lacked any of the crackle or spirit that this music requires to really be filled out. He seemed only able to play 8-10 notes at a time before stopping, regrouping, and coming back with 8-10 more.

Exactly what I thought on the stream, which is odd because in Summer 2001 with THE Q, he wouldn't even give Jimmy a chance to play. The whole band sounded tentative to me though.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Carrie Korsgaard (Ckphotogirl) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 10:54 am: Edit Post

Damn!
I hate to say it, but I'm glad I held off on this show...Maybe I really am in for some more Sweetwater "rehearsal" shows out here in Larkspur!~ Sounds like they should do that based on your review...It's always fun to see all the boys together though, so let's hope they don't bag the Spring Tour plans now! I'm so psyched for the New Year's shows and that!! They'll pull it off. They always do!
:-)
Peace out everyone...and GO OBAMA!
Thanks again for the review.
Carrie
p.s.
I don't understand the dog thing either.
Never have, never will. I have a hard enough time taking care of myself at a show, let alone my damn dog! Ha!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Viva (Msg_man) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 11:15 am: Edit Post

The Boys have a LONG history of blowing every "big" show they ever had to play! :-(


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan (Deadhead321) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 11:21 am: Edit Post

eh, one mans opinion


i was at the show and i agree there were sloppy times of "WTF" but all in all i thought the show was smokin!

truckin opener set the mood for the night. the place was PACKED to the roof and when the opening riff hit the dancing starting and didnt let up until the "clap clap clap....clap clap" of NFA

personal highlights for me are a sick sick Dark star followed by st stephen and i throughly enjoyed throwing stones as well.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By pinman (Pinman) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 01:08 pm: Edit Post

From Dead.net:

"A quick little anecdote from Sound Check. At the far end of the Arena direct opposite of the stage was a typical sports type banner that you see in most college arenas for their teams accomplishments. The band is full on the middle of song and Bobby just stops dead, pauses and says in the mic to the other guys. "Man these guys haven't been to the final four since 1954"."

Question- folks are referring to a stream for this- where is it?

Thought for the day- the pic in the setlist frame made me think- these guys are looking REALLY old- one would think they'd rehearse a little bit prior to a one-off gig like this. Think of how much rehearsal Led Zeppelin put into their recent London gig. Glad I didn't spend a bunch of $ I don't have to get to this one. But in true Dead style, some shows Blow, and some shows Suck- in the end it's all a big air-flow quandary anyway when we take our last breath...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By spiritfingers (Rainbowgunn) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 01:40 pm: Edit Post

>>The Boys have a LONG history of blowing every "big" show they ever had to play! :-(


thinking the same thing
dont think NYE was that way..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Howie (Howiej1) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 01:59 pm: Edit Post

NYE @ The BG Civic in 05 was a mess, with the guy jumping on top of my buddy and then over the balcony. Let's just hope this year will be different !


Play The Warfield again Phil !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan (Deadhead321) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 02:28 pm: Edit Post

-----"Thought for the day- the pic in the setlist frame made me think- these guys are looking REALLY old- one would think they'd rehearse a little bit prior to a one-off gig like this.--"


that picture is NOT from last night. billy wore an orange cap the whole show...and they did not have the full on drum setup with the huge hanging rigs in the backround. plus mickey had a blue tie dye on and phil was wearing long sleeves


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By RJ Winters (Philrocksme) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 02:48 pm: Edit Post

From MY perspective, I loved every minute. The vibe inside was more like a Dead show, but you couldn't give tickets away outside.

I thought the boys were pretty tight and that Warren backed off a litte in respect to them and Jerry. He definately has his own style. I thought the floor was just groovin all night long and everytime I looked up into the other levels, everyone was on their feet dancing. Lots of good smells in the air too. Security was there but mainly in the halls, not inside.

I, personally, had a GRRATE time. Could be very interesting New Years Show, by the looks of things.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Vermonter (Strat13) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 03:01 pm: Edit Post

For those who are saying they are glad to have missed it - you shouldn't be. Despite the general lack of X factor, it was a fantastic night, great to see the boys together again, great crowd energy, very nice venue, not to mention a smokin' Allmans set. You did miss much (not to make you feel bad! :-))


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nick (Lazybones8) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 03:38 pm: Edit Post

"The day was fun, but the Dead's performance seemed somewhere between "mediocre" and "trainwreck" Mickey and Billy were often not quite together, this seemed to keep the band from gelling most of the evening. I saw this lack of drummer cohesion close up, because I had seats behind the stage"

It must be frustrating for Phil to have these guys flailing behind him when he's so used to the precision drumming of John Molo.

"The lot was also full of tix for sale. Close to show time people couldn't even give tickets away, that's how plentiful they were. "

When is a sell out not a sell out?? Nothing like having lots of tickets available for a sold out show. Glad to hear the scalpers got scalped.

Wait until the Spring.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By randynolt (Psuruns10) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 03:41 pm: Edit Post

They rocked...much better than the WAVE the Flag tour in 04


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bucky (Bucky) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 04:32 pm: Edit Post

>>>>>When is a sell out not a sell out??

Who says it was sold out?

There were tickets available from Ticketmaster late last week......

Section 201, side of the stage.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Craig Bowman (Sunking) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 04:40 pm: Edit Post

Give me a bad Mickey and Billy over Molo at his best ANY day!

Molo has no SOUL...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Papaleo (Dayjob1978) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 05:13 pm: Edit Post

While I agree with many points expressed here, I thought overall the show was an exceptional experience. It's the first show in fours years with the CORE FOUR. Regardless of their forty+ years together, they do not have as much opportunity to rehearse as much as p+f. That being said, Chimenti's solo in Unbroken Chain was unreal. A totally different approach than Molitz (and for that matter, Welnick), he really rocked the baby grand. Also, the Jam out of Throwin' Stones was amongst the finest pieces of live music I've witnessed this year. Truly primal stuff. After a few shows under their belt, and a little more rehearsal, this incarnation of The Dead could truly be something special.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ......boing (Speedlimit) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 05:52 pm: Edit Post

^^^^ yeah what he said


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenny kars (Spanish_jam) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 06:25 pm: Edit Post

Ok....very brief review. Allman Bros Smoked. Only compaint was the sound was off. Warren was way to low. But still Loved every moment.

Was so looking forward to this Dead reuinion show but I have learned recently (after 30 years) to tame my expetations. Have walked away pissed off from mediocre shows based on "to High" expectations and wanted to tread carefully this time around. AFTER ALL THESE GUYS HAVE NOT PLAYED AS A "CORE 4" IN YEARS.

Lights went down and the band huddled together in a circle near Phils amp. Great energy and vibes from the audience. Had a few goose bumps. Band came out and plowed in to a truckin> Us blues. Ring Rust was evident as they were far from tight. Miscues all through out. This opening combo was not what I was hoping for but remained optimistic.. Help>slip was slightly better but nothing to write home about (or touch upon in this review). Franklins finally put a smile on my face but that did not last to long. I must mention that it seemed Bobby was so concerned about leading the band that he forgot how to play his guitar. Warren was almost a non factor. Do not get me wrong...Warren had some very nice moments but for the most part he was in the background or just a shadow of his former (lead guitar god) self in playing with the dead on 04. Am not sure why?? Was it respect for the Legacy of this band? Seemed Bobby never made eye contact with warren except for a handul of times. High lites for me were the new arangements in dark star, st. stephen, Unbroken chain and the Ashes. The rest of the tunes all night, for the most part were fairly un remarkable. Oh yes...I did like the enc. touch of grey>Not fade.

Tonight was far from a great show but I still had a good time. Lucky I had kept my expectations in check as it could have been an ugly night. Based on last night had the band announced a tour I would no doubt give the first few shows a miss so the band could sort itself out AND PRACTICE THESE NEW ARANGEMENTS.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenny kars (Spanish_jam) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 06:43 pm: Edit Post

>Tonight was far from a great show but I still had a good time.<

Actualy I had a very good time. It was my sons first "Dead" show and hung out with some good buddies. Am glad I was there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By trippy (Trippy) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 07:07 pm: Edit Post

i bet this show will be indicative of the obama presidency it was promoting, well intentioned, but ultimately a failure


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sycamore Slough (Disco_stu) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 08:16 pm: Edit Post

Well,

I didn't make it either... chose to spend the day catching up on firewood procurement and dispersal. Also bought a nice guitar effect pedal with the funds not spent on fuel, lodging and event ticket.

But, I can shed some light (just a little light) on the dogs and also WH being a bit down in the mix... Many of those dogs were my robo-dog-bots which I dispatched to PA with orders to snatch Warren's custom Tube Screamers and any other boutique overdrive pedals they could get their snouts on. They did not arrive home empty-pawed!

However, some dog-bots malfunctioned and attempted to hump random wooks or make snarling jumps for Weir's tender ribs. I hate to say it, but those pups had to go to the cyberkennel.

BTW thanks Sebastian for a great review !!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan (Deadhead321) on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 11:21 pm: Edit Post

all around it was a wonderful show. just the fact that it was the core 4..together for first time in a while was special. you could tell they were all enjoying themselves. there were man instances when bob and phil would have their backs to the pit and standing in a tight circle with the drums...and the four of them were hammering away through crazy grooves and jams of epic proportions.

warren was a big part of the evening in my opinion. he was playing some very sweet licks and was great on throwing stones. keep in mind the guy was shredddding during ABB.

chimenti on Unbroken Chain was beautiful


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dz (Dashuzoff) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 08:22 am: Edit Post

Did any one else hear Brian tease Shakedown Street? And who was that guy that stepped on one of Warrens pedals while Brian was facing the amp? I thought only Brian and Warren handled his equipment.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Z (Zang) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 11:40 am: Edit Post

My .02

Didn't attend but after hearing it was both a "trainwreck" and a "10" I thought I'd give it a whirl.


So here are my mindless thoughts while i was lsitening.....

Truckin…much cleaner than I expected….everyone knows their place…not mind blowing but solid all the way around. I actually would see these guys. Nice little nuances here and there


Us blues…different…a little choppy…not bad…but nothing to write home about either… Bobby all fired up. It ain’t easy being cheesey

Help…..Bobby mistake wasn’t such a mess as people had written about. Shit Jerry fucked up more than that. Started slow…but now slipknot has found a mellow groove…..but that’s all it has…not as devastating as some people alluded to

Playing seems just fine to me….totally forgot who I was listening to and that’s a good thing…

Wish the transition from playing to DS was stronger more subtle ie.. stronger in it’s subtlety

DS never liked the the singing of separate lines in DS. Doesn’t flow as beautifully as it can.

Pauses between songs are breaking the flow but if it means they are hitting their intros like they do into st Stephen…then it’s worth it…

rest of the show about the same....

Bobby blowing it during touch….is phil in better health than bobby?


Final thoughts. I would go see them..maybe even travel...probably not more than one location though. Much better than I expected. A solid 6


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ekoostikal (Ekoostikal) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 11:56 am: Edit Post

FOB source now on archive: http://www.archive.org/details/plf2008-10-13.zman. fob.ccm4v.flac16


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Al White (Alwhite) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 02:13 pm: Edit Post

My buddy Ed asked me to counter all the negativity we have read here about this show. Although I am back at work after a six-day absence with more important things to do with my time, I have decided to take Ed up on his request and tell it like it was and is (at least from my perspective). This was not close to a train wreck. All and all I think it was a great performance. I actually felt like I was at a Grateful Dead show. It had THAT energy. Not much of the “it” factor, but enough Grateful Dead positivity to make this show a hit with me and my sometimes hard-to-please buddies.

As a natural nitpicker I could dissect this show and find flaws. In fact, I was all set to skip this one…. A band with Phil, Warren and Chementi had potential for greatness, but with these over the hill, lackluster and very slow drummers and the washed up Bobby, I figured how good could this be? IMO even Phil’s current Jackie Greene band has gotten a bit mundane, so how good could an unrehearsed get together of these guys possibly be? But my buddy Louis reminded me to live in the moment and take experiences organically as they come and I’m real glad I listened to him.

On Monday, five of my bros wrapped up our annual Pocono fall camping extravaganza to head to the show. The northern route to State College was a colorful one. As a PSU 1980 grad, it was great for me to get back to Happy Valley. I hadn't been back for over 25 years. With teo of my bud’s kids now attending, all the buzz around the Nittany Lion national powerhouse football team (beat Michigan Sat!), the incredible weather, the camaraderie of my friends, a hot ABB and a political rally for an inspirational history-making candidate, there was really no way for this to not be fun.

As expected, the ABB were great. For the ABB, I roamed the lower stands checking out the show and the crowd from many angles. I've seen the ABB a lot and this was another great performance. Jessica, Dreams, Any Day and the Whippin' Post encore were particularly smoking. Derek was incredible and it was great seeing and hearing Susan for Don’t Think Twice.

For the rally and Dead I sat with Louis and LG in the middle of a downstairs section stage right with a full on view of the band. The Obama rally aspect with various professors talking, Joe Pa’s son and a grouping of some of the football players was cool. They all said they were thrilled to be on the same stage as the Dead. I think Obama’s handlers did a much-improved job on his pre-Dead video message this time. They must have received an advanced set list because Obama’s message managed to work in the name of two songs that were played that night (Aint Wasting Time and Touch). It was a bit cheesy, but at least he didn’t tell us “young people” to sit down and enjoy the show.

The cherry on the sundae was the Dead’s performance. The drummers had their youthful pep back and a setlist of all big songs was rare and exciting (and probably covered many a potential flaw). Bobby did do his cross-eyed thing, frequently forgetting the lyrics and dropping lines. One dude I was siting near thought his mic was out and I told him it aint the mic that's broken. Regardless, I really enjoyed hearing Bobby sing the O-1, Truckin, Throwing Stones and Not Fadewaway. I do think Warren should have had more vocal leads (IMO he should have sung every Jerry song including Help and US Blues). It would have been great to have Jimmy, Barry, Trey, Sco, or Larry etc join Warren, but the lone lead was more Deadlike and I think Warren's playing was great and very respectful to Jerry (by not mimicking him). He did have some shredding moments particularly on Throwing Stones and Unbroken Chain.

Jeff Chimenti was great on keys. Phil was his wonderful self: powerful, upbeat and happy and his playing and vocals reflected his mood.

This was a fun upbeat and well played show. It was a nice change of pace from Phil and Friends.

Long live Phil and his part time Dead gig.

GO PHILLIES!

Unc


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Katikins (Mountainmama) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 03:02 pm: Edit Post

The overall energy at this show was amazing. Bryce Jordan center has had a history of being harsh on folks in the lot. I was surprised to find shakedown happening there. Lots of folks hanging out, opening drinking, puffing, etc. Only a few vendors were prepared for the show, given BJC's history. It was quite the reunion for me, I used vend on the lot and it was good to see my old friends still out there. Inside randomly bumping into friends everywhere I turned. Ran into Huck and Liberty somewhere during the evening(nice to finally hug you Liberty), Was not really all there, but nice nonetheless:-). Made my way in and out of three different boxes , while trying to find seats together w/ my friend's, so thanks to all those welcoming in the "not-so-private" boxes.

Phil held it together for everyone that evening. (were those real lights on his guitar?, f'in cool:-))At one point I found myself cussing at Warren to just go the fuck on and tear that shit up. He was not wanting to steal the show from Bobby, but he should have. I was behind the stage at one point and could see Bobby conducting, it annoyed the shit out of me. Muchos Garcias to Phil for the Unbroken Chain, we needed that. By the end of the show, they had it going on, and then it was over. Looking forward to listening from home, i may like it better. I am still so glad I went, just because the music isn't what it used to be, the people still are. Lots of love in that place. At the end of the show, Micky told us all to go home and spread it around. That's what we have now folks, we can't see the Dead like we used to, but we still all have the ability to spread the love and that's what I'm gonna do...anyone need some love?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By birds of fire (String_jam_jazz) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 03:15 pm: Edit Post

Cue Brent's "Blow Away" rap from Knick 90.

Thanks for spreading the love


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cryptical (Cryptical) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 04:12 pm: Edit Post

Weir needs to stop imitating Arthur Fiedler and stick to playing rhythm.


He gave Billy the ol' stink eye when Kreutzman decided to start pounding the skins before The Other One.

And someone please remind him that Warren Haynes WAS on the stage...and he has been known to sing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Calypso Frelimo (Dave_c) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 06:48 pm: Edit Post

>>Weir needs to stop imitating Arthur Fiedler and stick to playing rhythm. >>

LOL! Brilliant. . .


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By darron mccullough (Darron) on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 09:16 pm: Edit Post

My first listen , Imagine how much respect for Phil and Bobby, Warren has to have to be as subdued as he was playing and singing.Did Bobby go , o.k Warren no lead vocal or ripping up the slide lines ? Hardly no slide in Truckin? Wow, I've never heard Warren use that tone, who is singing harmony Chiminti? Bobby really has on his best singing voice , sounds forced but it doesn't sound as bad as most of the critcs say .


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.Fish ܼ))))))›‹ (Garyfish) on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 01:22 am: Edit Post

review posted on JamBase... worth reading

http://www.jambase.com/Articles/15336/Change-Rocks -10.13-Pennsylvania


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By i want more (Hizbe) on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 08:30 am: Edit Post

nice reviews~

what "source/taper" did that guy use on the jambase review?

ty


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By pinman (Pinman) on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 02:23 pm: Edit Post

In case nobody noticed, that jambase link two posts above this one has mp3 files that stream at the bottom of the page under the review that actually sound pretty good.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By larry (Larryo) on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 02:45 pm: Edit Post

thanks all, for reviews and comments!
I just tried the link above-

FOB source now on archive:

I was wondering how long they played, and I thought gee the time should be shown by a "taper". I have dial-up and had no plans to download or even attempt to stream.... and well, it seems to have been removed because of 'content'.... do we have to guess who/why?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By pinman (Pinman) on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 08:14 pm: Edit Post

http://www.jambase.com/Articles/15336/Change-Rocks -10.13-Pennsylvania/1

This is the link that has the mp3 files at the bottom of the page from a nice aud source.

Gotta say, after reading everybody's initial reviews above, and after listening through the show a couple times that I disagree with the general consensus that it sucked- I think it sounds like a really fun show!

Starting with trucking through US blues the band is loose and rockin' and very high energy. The HSF sounds fine to me- again- sounds like they're having fun- a few blips here & there but the boys blipped constantly back in the day so that's to be expected in my book. Warren is Warren and is just doing his thing throughout. He blended nicely with the band overall and they had a pretty consolidated ensemble entity going. I'm sure folks got to hear him rip out front plenty with e ABB set so he's appropriate here IMO. Jeff adds a nice aggressiveness on keys- can see why he's there instead of Rob. I don't miss Warren's vocals in this band- they are the Dead after all- not the Warren Haynes show. The DS and TOO were pretty truncated and didn't really have a chance to go way out due to the short time allotted for those in a pretty overreaching setlist. Should've been 2 sets for those tunes, but nice to hear them anyway and K-Tel Ronko Records Stars on 45 would've been happy. I think the boys pulled off a really nice gig all things considered- much better than what I expected after reading everyone's reviews- c'mon- you can't go to a Dead show with expectations! I'll head out to see them on Spring tour for sure and check my expectations at the door...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By FrankenFish ܼ))))))›‹ (Garyfish) on Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 02:12 am: Edit Post

>>>This is the link that has the mp3 files

here's another source for this mp3 stream of the Dead/ABB sets
http://www.musicwebtown.com/wklitz/217613


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pete (Zeus) on Monday, October 20, 2008 - 12:15 pm: Edit Post

The show was great. It was just what we needed. You couldn't ask for a better crowd and Jeff and Warren were there to accentuate what the boys were playing, not take over the show. I was really impressed with Warren, since he really showed restraint and didn't try to steal the spotlight. I'm looking forward to Spring tour. Thank you all for a real good time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lifeguy (Lifeguy) on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 08:50 pm: Edit Post

Great show


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bruce Edward Weber (Eddieboy) on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 10:02 pm: Edit Post

Listening to a copy of show Tucker sent me right now, Unbroken Chain is starting, DAMN FINE SHOW! THANKS BOYS, LOVE EDDIEBOY(BruceEdwardWeber)! PS Thanks Tucker!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Drew H Taylor (Darkstarcrashes) on Thursday, April 22, 2010 - 12:44 am: Edit Post

I thought I was really lucky to be able to attend this show. Wonderful drive to Penn St. Some of the best fall foliage I've ever seen. Nice and easy scene in the parking lot. Cool to see The Dead & ABB on the same bill. It had been some time since the boys had been on stage together. It was real exciting to see them starting to ride their musical bicycle again. I could tell there's still a love & passion between the band & audience after all these years. Bill & Mickey hold the rhythm down, Bobs the conductor, Warrens a nice fit and awsome guitar player, Jeff is right where he belongs behind the keys, and Phils the professor. Nice breakout of some classic dead tunes. Something happened during Dark Star. Phil had me in a trance. Some really cool weird phycadelic moments. Lots of fun glad I was one of those people in Bryce Jordan Center that evening.