i have an extra ticket for gorge and room in my vehicle any takers????? gas& face value
sec b row 32 in front of sund board
room in vehicle for up to three
Just got off the plane from Boise, back home in Portland, gonna catch a little nap, and head out to St. Helens...
I'm not sure I can have any more fun than I had last night, but I'm willing to give it the old college try!
fingr>that show in boise looks like it was just fantastic.
It was exceptional. the best post jerry dead show for me to date ('course I've only seen 4)
Severe weather always goes well with the dead!
Cloudy in Portland now, sun breaks predicted in the afternoon, chance of showers tonight.
Here's hoping against the odds that Help slip franks is on tap for tonight, stronger than dirt would be cool too!
Lay some setlist on me guys
The Dead, Columbia Meadows, Portland, OR 7/2/04
A Piece For You>
Little Red Rooster
Dear Mr Fantasy>
Lazy River Road>
thanks to Fritz for the list
Got the EZ Wind but paid dearly for it . . .
lazy river and esy wind are the only two songs i really like in that set.
rooster > stagger > fantasy > mickey ?
hopefully the second set made up for that bomb
It was probably the mother of all Roosters
with Warren on slide
>>>>>> the mother of all Roosters
Somehow that means more than you meant it to . . .
yeah , i can deal with the rooster ... and iko probably had a few cool jams
but fantasy stagger is brutal
The Weight>Peggy O>FOTD>She Said She Said>Jam>Deep Elem Blues>Corrina>D>S>Stella Blue>Help>Slip>Franklins
The Dead, Columbia Meadows, Portland, OR 7/2/04
A Piece For You>
Little Red Rooster
Dear Mr Fantasy>
Lazy River Road>
@Friend Of The Devil>
She Said She Said> Jam>
Deep Elem Blues>
Help On The Way>
Donor Rap/Headcount Rap
enc: Unbroken Chain
thanks to Fritz for the list
who sang deep elem?
looks like the second worst setlist of the tour , behind bonarroo .... stellas nice coming out of space , but then only a h - s - ft to close the show ? fucking terrible . a few jerry gems at the beginning of second set , but wheres the beef ? corrina into space ? nope.
EXCEPT FOR THE UNBROKEN ENCORE .... NOW THAT IS THE GOODS
The Dead, Bonnaroo, 6/12/04
Me & Bobbie McGee
William Tell Bridge>
Dark Star (v1)> Jam>
Shine On You Crazy Diamond> Jam>
Dark Star (v2)>
Help On the Way>
Turn On Your Lovelight
Donor Rap/ Headcount Rap
Encore: One More Saturday Night
You call THAT the worst setlist? What're you nuts?
but yeah , i consider that the worst setlist so far .
Wow Phonk if that is how you really feel, than remind me to never take your review of a paticular show too seriously.
Just got back from St. Helens....
Anyone need a gorge ticket.
Me & Jon just retired from the scene....Oh well.
corinna jeesh....thought we'd lost that freaking stinker for good...thanks bob for reminding us bad you really can be
Shake it up baby!
Lyrics: Robert Hunter
Music: Bob Weir
Its all Hunters fault.
just to remind us that Hunter is also full of cheeze - "Day Job," "Ugliest Girl," "When Push Comes To Shove" "Dinosaur"
you people suck plain and simple. Go start your own bands and do it right. Corina Rocks. Last night set was fucking unbelievable!!!! GBTGD
Yeah... like my one legged grandma in her rocking chair
You are very right Ben - we should start our own bands - but come on, Corrina is one of the most watered down songs of all time. We also need to keep some integrity here.
btw - I'm glad you enjoyed the Corrina
For some reason Corinna sounded pretty good in some of those Soldier Field shows.
"Feel Like a Stranger" on the other hand....
hey P.T. - "You can fool some of the people... '
I do hate hearing the bashers. Actually they can be good to laugh at here and there. It doesn't surprise me a bit that this show may not have been anything amazing. After all, they were amazing the night before. Salt Lake was pretty good too. And they need to save their energy for a strong pre-break holiday show.
The question is - did Warren sing She Said or did he have to split duties with Bobby who appropriated (misappropriated the song) for Ratdog.
Bobby's She Said and the Beatle's She Said, She said are totally different.
Pretty sure Warren sung it.
Phonk...you are very right IMHO....first set looks OK but that second set looks like the worst one of the tour. Of coarse if they played really well that is good but having said that if I traveled far to see that show instead of lets say a SAC or another show I would be pissed.
bad bobby no corrina
Ha Ha !!
I was waiting for that one
Agreed, but in this case I think you mean:
"official" setlist on home page lists "deep elam blues" as a 1st time played...i was at RR last year and I know they played it there...1st set, third or forth night...first time for the Dead--last year! anyway, thought someone might want the correct info...PEACE!
Suppose I got some concensus from crewmembers who heard the band complaining about last evening's performance, would you still feel that Corienna ROCKS!
Deep Elem Blues was sung last year at Red Rocks on 7/8/03. Set 1 with Bobby & Joan singing.
>> yeah , i can deal with the rooster ... and iko probably had a few cool jams
but fantasy stagger is brutal
wtf were you at the show?? nitpicking at paper what a fucking joke
thank god we are almost done with the west coast whiners and more glad i live on the east coast. there is always some nit picker in the crowd. instead of complaining about decent songs like Corrina, wave your flag reading "Jerry wouldn't have let Mickey sing"
Why even search for a setlist if once you get it you are chastised for expressing your opinion of songs played..??..
Be thankful..At least it lets ya know you are not the Last Lonely Asshole..
Long Live The Dead..
Use those songs to hit the bathroom or get a drink. And either skip over them or don't download them. But you have to admit that some set lists just don't do it for you. If they play 9 songs and 8 you just don't like, what can you do? I was listening to Corrina the other day, and remembered when i first heard it I hated it and I now I knida like it. Tastes change, musics does too.
Stop whining about the whiners
Well, since there are no other cohearant reviews, I'll give it my best shot.
Liberty; This had special meaning since it was the encore of the last show the GD played in Oregon in 95, Tight jams, upbeat, general good vibe all around
Easy Wind: Cool to hear, warren followed the bouncing ball without to much difficulty, Band energy continuing on the upswing..
A piece for you; My first time hearing this song. Felt it was a bold move to inssert it here, probably didn't work as well as they would have liked, since the crowd energy seemed to dwindle, but I still enjoyed it.
Rooster; Crowd regathered into the collective mind with this one, another bold move in that Bob's slide solo FOLLOWED warrens, I didn't think this would work af first but the Band kicked in and tore into it...Firing on all cylinders by the end, Big fun!
Fantasy; collective mind grooving along through this one too.... at this point I felt the energy was at least on par with Boise, and probably a little higher...
Stagger Lee; Hot ending jam.... think to myself by this point "this is why I keep coming...."
Lazy river; thinking to myself at this point.... "this is why I'm not driving 6 hours to the gorge........."
Iko; Collective mind back with a vengeance! Fun great set closer...
2nd set review coming later.....
I was really bummed cause I couldn't make the show, but hearing these reviews makes me not so sad I saved the $$. I probably woulda been slightly disappointed. I was a hardcore sceptic for some time, my first post-Jerry gig was PLQ 2/13/01 and I was impressed, but last year's Dead at the Gorge left me wondering what the future will hold for the boys. I hope they don't become just another nastalgia act...
OK I wasn't even at the show last night -- Corrina may have sucked -- but Jerry used to rip the shit out of that song! I have heard The Dog do it well too. I like the fact that Bobby doesn't care what any one thinks (easy answers).
I just think it would be a lot more fun to read the posts if they were more positive -- in the spirit of the Grateful Dead.
Think about all the negative crap the Band faced all the years and what their collective response was to it..Might IMO get ya furthur or at least as far as dealing with the neg..Black white night day.. good evil..pos - neg makes the Earth Turn and also elec current..Ain't I brainy..
Major neg issues like say when a close friend - associate is running amuk and complicated by the fact that they largely responsible for your meal ticket..
That is what bothers me bout Bush..He wants to squash all that he does not like....
You hoping the Band does not become nostalgia act..Me hoping I don't..
>>>>>>> I do hate hearing the bashers.
Yeah, right, Mr. "JOAN SUCKS" Gunner!!!!
Thank you Mis'ngFinger.
A review of the show by some one who acutally heard the show. Wow! Even better, some one who was at the show.
>>>Suppose I got some concensus from crewmembers who heard the band...
You are almost getting it here. It doesn't matter if they are in the crew or not. It's that they heard it and were there.
This is "For Show Reviews Only"
It's in big red letters.
TapeCat gives us the set lists. Then people who who streamed it and listened, and people who were there review it.
People like us who weren't there might ask some questions.
But if you want to start a discussion about how Corina sucks, or the meaning of a setlist you never heard, or if Warren or Jimmy are shitty musicians, you can go to "Other Stuff".
There you can start a new thread on this topic.
And you will get a lot more discussion on it than bringing it up in show reviews.
Still waiting for more reviews Mis'ngFinger
thank God for Drums.
Amazing Setlist, wish I was there, that to me had a perfect mix of songs
Listen to this show streaming:
Not the best Show, but hey it's the Dead! Slow mellow dead still is beter than most things in the universe.
Just a quick note as I am off to the Gorge. This show had some moments, but also had some clunkers. Drove back from Nampa after heading out there for the show on previous day, so I was a bit winded. The scene was very cool. A field out in Oregon. Phil commented on all of the hippies and I think they were pumped to be in Oregon. Not as rocking as Nampa, but a good show. On to the Gorge.
"Warren followed the bouncing ball without too much difficulty " LOL !
Yes I too was not a huge Corrina fan,but it grew on me,and Jerry sure indeed could shred the lead on that tune,best part about it,plus the whole rhythm thing going on in that tune won me over after a while. Check out the Corrina Mind Left Body jam from the Rosemnt in 93,think it was 3-10-93,pretty hot jam there,for 93
Corrina RFK '92 to open second set was good also
First time they played Casey Jones in 8 years also.
They also played omsn with "Bobby saying OLD Goerge put on your walking shoes" 12 years later Bobby can still sing that line
At the end of the day every one got one...an opinion and an Asshole. Would rather here your opinion...good or bad then see your _________. Especially if we disagree. That makes it interesting.
A couple of folks and I have disagreed on many a thread but I still respect there view.
Sorry folks. But it is my opinion that the song selection at this show SUCKED BIG TIME.
Not necessarily the show sucked but the song selection.
For what ever it is worth.
And before I piss any one off I said the song selection sucks not the show. If I was there and the music was not hot....well then I would shout out the show sucked the big one. But am not saying that.
If you were there and the show sucked....stand up and be heard. Would love to see a good debate.
i was at the Portland show, just a few comments: the show was in a rural field in Oregon with trees around it. The first set was played in the daylight, the 2nd mostly in the dark. The whole show was a tad on the mellow side. The sequence of songs in the first set clashed with one another. Dear Mr Fantasy was hot, and so was Rooster. The 2nd set was much better: the Weight, Peggy-O, & the Help>S>F were just very fine. The best song of the night was Unbroken which ended in an extended jam that could have easily gone into another song, the boys looked ready to go on further, and then it slowed to a gentle stop and Good Night. Fun scene, the band are really listening to each other, and Jimmy can play ! Also the Headcount rap was surprisingly in-your-face, suggesting the upcoming prez election could well be the last free election this country will have...
Just woke up after a wonderful night w/ the Dead. I was a little bummed to see all the negativity here on the review board, but so it goes. Here's my take.
I though the venue was a good place for the Dead. We got there early and enjoyed the parking lot flea market a lot! I noticed security going to one group and asking them if their art was on display so that it could be seen/enjoyed by others... got a good laugh out of that. People were allowed to share their wares w/o any hassles that I saw. Gone are the days when people could sell/barter their arts/crafts/munchies to pay for their tour. Dead music was echoing from all directions, and we could here a little bit of the soundcheck from the line to get in (I had festival seats, so was near the front of the line to get in).
Security was what we now come to expect, I was the first person searched in my line, and while they were very respectful, I had to get rid of my bottled water, food, and even my snickers bar (No, Not the Snickers bar!!!)... welcome to george bush'z america folks.
The inside of the venue was very laid back, many international food booths that were reasonably priced, beer garden, etc. It was basically a field, w/ a forested ridge on one side, and the stage at the other... very beautiful spot, even if it was just a field... reminded me of the 82 field trip in Veneta (Oregon Country Fair Site), one of my all time favortie shows. The Further Bus was there at the entrance, always cool to see in all of it's incarnations.
Robert Hunter came out and gave an inspiring performance... I thought he sounded better than what i've heard on streaming radio so far. I thought the crowd was very receptive, and gave him a rousing thunder of applause when he was done. Well deserved IMHO.
The Dead came out and started w/ Liberty, not my favorite song, but they did a decent job of it, the sound was a little rough, but you could hear them dialing it in as the song progressed. Easy wind was pretty cool, a good blues number, again a little rough, and the sound was still being dialed in... so it also got better as it went. A piece of you was new to me, so it was cool to check out. I was hoping for more jam songs, but 2 pop songs and a blues song are Ok i guess.
Red Rooster Smoked, the band just nailed it! The Sound was great by now, and I just closed my eyes and let the music play the band. I was sick of the song from years past, but they did such a fantastic job on it, I'm going to have to change my mind on this one (hear that naysayers!). It was a definate hightlight up to this point. It was a different arrangement than I'd seen before, w/ an extra measure thrown in to give it that authentic delta sound. And yes, Bobby did follow Warren on the slide solos, and he played great, inspired bobby style slide... not the same solo he's played for years, but something quite new, refreshing, and totally legit!
I didn't recognise Dear Mr. Fantasy at first, again a different arrangement from what I've seen in the past. The band nailed this one too, just smoked it... while not a fav. of mine from the past, this was a great rendition... i just wish I could listen to the stream of it. I only have a 56k modem, and cant listen to most of the dead streams... bummer for me
Stagger Lee is another song i've seen many times, and is not a fav, but again they nailed it, was a fantastic version... i think everyone took turns singing it. It was fast and furious, w/ a really
Lazy River Road is another song I don't care for, but they had great vocals/harmonies, and the drive there is along 40 miles of lazy river road along the columbia river and the columbia river slough, so very appropriate for the venue.
Iko Iko was a blast!!! It simply rocked the house down. Everyone was boogying theyre butts off. Great version. And this first set was in dire need of anything uptempo, and boy did Micky deliver for us. A definate first set highlight for me.
On to the Break.
>>>>>>> I do hate hearing the bashers.
Yeah, right, Mr. "JOAN SUCKS" Gunner!!!!
You've got me confused with him. I am Gunnar with an A. It's my real name. It's what I go by. And I love Joan! (but am happy with what they are now)
This show was definitely a mix of high spots and some ho-hum moments. More relaxed than the only Dead show I saw last year (Gorge). Maybe they were matching the venue and the crowd. This has to have been the most easy going Dead show I've been to. I will echo Drewbaw's remark that it had an amazing similarity to the 82 Veneta show, which just happened to have been my first show.
We had seats in the 8th row and when we got settled in, we were sure there was going to be chaos when things got going. There were no security people in the aisles, and nobody checked our tickets. But amazingly, there was so much room during the first set and the aisles never got crowded.
This show didn't work for me and it had nothing to do with how well the band played. Except for Fantasy, there wasn't one first set song that would have been on my list of wanting to hear. When they added Warren, my fear was the band would go to far into the blues side of things with the addition of the slide, not one of my favorite styles.
That said, there were excellent moments in the 1st set. Liberty was powerful giving the current political situation. LLR was nice to hear and the IKO was outstanding.
Second set was more solid. Weight was excellent. I groaned when they started up FOTD, but they nabbed me by the end of it. She Said was a 1st time for me and it left me wanting to hear it again some time.
Corriiiiinnnnna, now there's a dog that's ugly to look at, but underneath that mange is a funky downbeat that's just plain fun. Sorry folks, but get over yourselves.
Stella was done nicely, but if there is one song that should have retired with Jerry moving on, this is it. Warren does a great version, but without Jerry's emotion, it just becomes another nice song.
HSF was a nice way to end the show. I almost wanted to leave on that note even though I've never missed an encore. This was the encore to stay up for. UBC was by far the best version I've laid ears to. The jam that stretched out the piece was amazing and Phil sounded great, just right.
All in all, it was an excellent night. Powerful? No. They can't all be. If I travelled for miles I might have been disgruntled. A home town show, a mellow and respectful crowd, grass under your feet, beat up, warped and rusted theater chairs, and all your old deadhead friends that you only see at these shows, what more can you want?
One more thing: Bob is the shit. His voice is his own and it sure works for me. I could actually hear his guitar last night and it's true folks, the man can play.
The first set had a lot of songs i generally don't like, but they did such good versions of them, I felt quite satisfied... though it was a little slow paced for me. I was hoping the 2nd set would be a rocker, or have many space jams.
They opened w/ the weight... A great version of this timeless classic. Everyone sang a verse, and really smoked it... again, another song i generally don't like, and again, another slow song, but it was very well done.
Next Pegio... Another great version, everyone sang, but one of my alltime least favorite songs.
I really liked this version though, but was beginning to get a little bummed about the song selection. All blues songs or folk ballads for the most part. (I like the jam songs most).
Friend of the Devil was well played, though a lite version of the song, the whole crowd was singing along and really enjoying themselves... I certainly was.
She said rocked, a very tight version, some great solos, and Warren really shined on vocals! They went into a really cool jam out of it into deep elem blues, sang by bobby. I'd never seen this song before, and though another blues song, really enjoyed this version... again, I wasn't getting what I wanted, but in a weird way was getting what I needed from the Dead... go figure.
Corrina came and went, not a very good version, but they did a pretty cool jam out of it. I hate to say it, but I'm was a little bummed about the song choice up to this point... at least the majority of the songs were played extremely well.
The rest of the show from here on out made it for me. The band couln't have changed gears any more.
The Drums were spectacular, inspiring, and everything i'd come to love from a Dead show. I've met Billy once, and all I can say is He's the man! Forget about age, this could have been a primus show... Billy just tore it up!!! I've met Micky too, and he was doing his thing like always, giving a spectrum of tones and beats that were truly inspiring... I just love the way these two monsters work off of each other, support each other, and give the audience something truly unique in the world of rock and roll dead fusion.
My definite highlight up to this point in the night.
Out of the drums came an interesting space, really enjoyable. The stella blue was priceless, Warren is so soulful in his rendition... I actually came home and played a favorite version of this song to reinspire me (portland 83). This was a great version... very textural and powerful, again the crowd was singing along w/ those powerful words... an all time great guitar players balad (I've been playing on stage myself for around 25 years here in corvallis/eugene area).
They did a nice long mellow jam out of it, and I noticed Phil lean over to Bobby and suggest something... bang! Helps on the way! (wonder what they would have gone into?)
A great version of this old favorite of mine, into a very cool slipknot... spacey yet driving in suttle ways... and on into Franks tower. A great way to end the set, though I was hoping for a little more, Franks tower was a favorite song for one of the people in our group, and I was so happy he got to hear it... made the show for him.
The donor rap was slightly different than usual w/ Phil being humble yet powerful at the same time. Then Bobby came out and made us all laugh w/ a line I'd never heard him say before...
"Holy shit, look at all the hippies!"
I busted a nut at this, laughed my ass off... he then when on w/ his headcount rap.
Unbroken Chain was a spectacular encore... the boys nailed this one to be sure!!! Made the show for me, as i've always loved this song, the weird changes, odd time signatures (7 / 8, or 15 time), etc. They made this bitch of a tune sound easy to play. They stretched out the jams a little, especially at the end... I too thought they were going to go into something, but it slowed down, got quieter, and then stopped... Left me feeling very satisfied.
All in all, a record number of songs I don't normally like for a show, but they were done so well, I guess I can't complain... the drums - chain made the show for me, as this was the kind of groove I was more hoping for.
Actually, the only truely bad part of the show was trying to leave. There were perhaps 10-20,000 people there, and only one lane to get out, so it tooks us over an hour to get out of the parking lot... some people were anal, but most were understanding, and let people get ahead of them as needed... we played hands/scissor/paper as we came up to cars to see who would go next, got everyone laughing, so it was a smooth ride for us... got to keep that humor during unpleasant situations... take the love back home w/ you, as it should be!!!
This will be my only show of the year, and while not what i was hoping for, I had a fantastic time just the same, and can hardly wait for the next time I get to see the boys tear it up one more time...
Thanks for the reviews..
Can relate here to home town shows having a different sorta bar..Being in your own bed 1/2 hour after leaving show is good deal..Ha.
Just a quick preface. I'm a Portland resident and a huge phil, warren, and jimmy fan. I love the GDead in the day and did tons of shows. The Phil n Friends 1999-2003 thing had me loving the new incarnation. I was excited to hear that Warren was coming on board this summer and well I love a hometown show. I went in with little to no expectations, save for a deep appreciation for exploration and improvisational process. I'm willing to sift through a lot of missed attempts to find the gold.
This scene was ouch the whole way through. The drive in was littered with roadside busts and cops hanging from every tree. The traffic was handled poorly and the staff was unprepared and mostly just hanging around. The venue was what I love about Oregon, just a field, low key, beautiful naturally. The folks were friendly, many old friends and connections, but there was an underlying maliase, a tennetive feel to the folks I talked to.
I'd been following the tour, via internet and have been sampling Bittorrents and the Sounboard snippets, enjoying what had been laid out.
When the music finally started, uh-oh. The PA was extremely dialed down. We were in reserved seats about 10 rows in front of the soundboard, dead center. Where's Phil? Is he even in the mix? Is he in this band? Liberty, ahh, I love this song, the last song the Dead played in Portland in '95, I love these kind of circles, but indeed it was not sounding good. I could barely hear it and it was a stretch. Easy Wind, now we're talking. This was perhaps the only part of the evening where the group of folks I was with all got our groove on. It was the only funk that had any dance to it. I liked a "Little Piece for You" but it certainly deflated any forward motion that Easy Wind had created. Little Red Rooster, ahhhh, time for the beer garden, an attempt to soothe the rapidly declining situation. The rest of the first set unfolded and all I could do was shrug (and I was taking it quite personally, the set made me feel like a failure because I couldn't put on the right ears to hear it)
Setbreak was nice and the thing that continued to save the evening was the great sense of humor that prevaded throughout the conversations. We could still laugh at ourselves and the complete stumbling of the comprimise-dead. As saw the boys retake the stage, we all headed back to the seats to lap up the monster second set that would surely present itself from the ashes of the brief uninspired first set.
Ahh the Weight, love this song and it was delivered nicely, but also no rock was evident, the PA still just barely on. Peggy-O, well hmmm I love the slow dripping psychedlia that Jer used to wash us down with, but Mr. Weir seems to be doing some sort of polished reverent tribute to the idea of what the song once was. This was not vital music that was being presented in the moment as a connection to the spirit of the community. It was a tightly arranged comprimise, a half tempo restrained shrug. As Friend of the Devil started up, I realized we were still trying to finish the first set. This tune was actually working and Bob impressed me with his leads on the Acoustic, he took his final run, then Warren chimed in with this guitar and then Jimmy swooped in and we were in the Zone, and then they rolled out She Said and boom there it was. Liquid love oozed from the music and lyrics. Then my magic moment happened....the resonance of the moment with the "I know what it's like to be Dead" and "I believe that it's time for me to leave now" werer an odd signal. The hottest part of the show seemed to intimate to me that it was OK for me to let go of the dead completely and I realized at that moment that this was my last show. This was confirmed when Bob squashed the ensuing jam to transport us back to the first set with a strange reading of "Deep Ellum Blues". Maybe I'm thick, but I just don't understand what Bob is trying to do with his slick, quiet, rearrangements of these Jerry tunes. Little help from someone out there who digs it? By the time deep ellum was done and Corrinna started I was hanging in the back by the food tents, stretching and working on my breathing. Drumz was nice mostly because they finally used the PA to affect our physicality. There was a big noise and some shadows of former greatness. The beautiful Stella that followed had no context, we hadn't gone far enough into the swirling sea to come out on the other side with a Stella. Although we posited that the Stella was a nod to Marlon Brando's passing. As Stella was winding down and I was debating my exit strategy, I wondered if we would Terrapin and then open the Gorge with Help Slip or if they would try to do something to actually enter the second set universe. When help knocked, I finally got on my feet again and realized that the help was just too late. We had all been rocked to sleep by the mid tempo show and the driving rock was just not enough to bring the energy to a head. The Slipknot was another fiasco as Warren and Jimmy were clearly chomping at the bit to get some satisfaction as Bobby did his best to direct traffic and hurry up and get this show over with.
The Franklins was fine and I was busting up at how Phils perfect pitch (and much maligned voice) were outshining a seriously out of tune Bob Wier. Phil may not be Mr. Rock vocals, but he does know how to sing on key, while Bobby seems to talk-sing and warble off key.
It was kind of Phil to try and let us think that it's special in Oregon, when it was clearly an after thought of a show. Bobby's comments about this being maybe the last chance to vote, were overly dramatic and fear inducing. I kept trying to imagine what any of this would have been like on a giant handful of psychedelics and I cringed....I hope there weren't too many casualties out there.
Unbroken Chain, love this song, but just couldn't be there for it, we split. When we got back to the car, we had some good laughs and fun crowd interactions, but we were delighted to pack up and sleep in our own beds.
My buddy Jon and I were supposed to jet to the Gorge today and we had sweet VIP box seats set up, with the drinks delivery and all that, but I just couldn't stomach another session of this, so I ate my ticket. Jon lives in Seattle so he was going to meditate on it on the ride home. He's still unsure If he'll turn right and head to the Gorge. I want to thank him in public for letting me off of the hook.
I also don't mean to bring anybody down, but I did feel like I had to share so that others who might have had similar expereinces don't feel to alone. The Dead will always be a part of who I am. And if Phil announces more PLQ dates, I'm on a plane, I'm front row. I just cannot participate in the watering down of a once bold enterprise...I'm out.
Love to All, carry on the torch, those who can bear the weight.
Jras..Now that is what this section of Discussion Board IMO is all about..
From the heart good writing about a show attended..
The fact that the music spoke to you..
>>.. The hottest part of the show seemed to intimate to me that it was OK for me to let go of the dead completely and I realized at that moment that this was my last show..<<..
Is what it is all about whatever it was ya heard it say..
I got similar message sans lbeing my last show here in San Diego..passed on next night Irvine..but felt so current..let go from past.. listening to this version of band so different than any other..
Unbroken Chain ..Links not all the same..but still connected..
Weak shows seems to get the strongest best written reviews..a sign of much respect and dedication....From Author to Band to Community..
One more show and we here out West pass the torch to you there back East....
Am sorry you were so dissapointed in the show and that you may think that the weakest of the shows was indicative or reflected a weak band. This band IMO is so far from that.
Other shows no doubt with a serious set list and serious punch would have left you with out a sour taste and looking for more. Perhaps listening to the CD of SAC or last night red rox will pick up your spirits.
Still I must say your review was moving and sincere.
Yeah, what GDad said.
And thank you so much Drew and Jerry. Yes I love hearing how the music sounded by someone there, but I'll eventually hear that.
What I love to hear, and you two delivered in spades, is what you smelt, touched etc. What was the scene like. What did you feel.
God you two really brought me there.
I sure hope you are going to more shows. Further!
Jerry Jones I can realte to almost everything you said and even after sorta being re-born again after Chula and Irvine, I thought those shows were very good, no not even as good as a weak night with old Jer but good, very good. Almost from the moment they were outta the gate at Chula Phil was rocking me, dont give up on going to "Dead" shows just dont go thinking you are gonna be blown away and then when you least expect it hopefully they will delivar. you should of went to the Gorge, sorry just had to add that.
Wow!... plenty has gone down here since my first set review this morning.
I wish I could wax as eloquent as the rest of ya'll, but I'm a simple man........anyway... my take on Set 2:
The Weight; Smokin' tight fun sing along, played well, with apparent purpose.
Peggy-o; Missing Jerry for this one, the vocal trading seems to have lost it's charm for me, perhaps they do it on a few to many tunes. I understand why they do it though..
FOTD; after Bob's solo and into warren's, my buddy and I turned to eachother and exchanged our collective understanding that "this is as close as it gets". Warren facing Bob & Phil, physically rocking up and down as he noodled through his envelpoe filter, looking and sounding eerily like days of old, fat man in a black shirt pushing the rest of the boys furthur out of the box... I began at this point to formulate my synopsis which I'll share at the end....
She Said; Always loved this with PLQ, and with the dead it was "Super sized" antastic, rockin, i could tell this show was headed somewhere...
Deep Ellem~corina; Well, I had no idea it was headed "here" however. Yes the energy went sideways at this point, but it was OK for me... the folks who's 6th row seats we vermed up to at the beginning of the show finally decided to show up, so we blew back for a much needed potty break..
D/S.... mellower than Boise, but fine... I always enjoy those two
Stella; I'll echo those before me, Fine rendition, but damn I really miss Jerry when this one comes on
HSF; If you scroll back up to the top of the thread, my pre show post contains a "hopeful call" for this one, and I am grateful for it. Was to the left of the board at this point, takin it all in, happy for the past two days of music..
Grate encore, again i'll echo those before me who said the jam at the end made the song, I was sure it was going into something else, but alas, when can you ever be sure with these guys?
All in all, a fine show, not an over the top, sell all your posessions and follow these guys to the end of the earth show, but certainly not a show that made me want to hang up my hat either, mainly because I was fortunate enough to see the Boise Show the night before, and that WAS a show that made me want to sell everything and hit the road!
Take any song in a dead show on it's own, and it is a micro-chosim (sp) of an entire show; it may start off with a bang and keep going, or start slow and peak, and fall again, or take any number of dynamic twists and turns. Take any show and it is a micro-(that thing i can't spell) of a run of shows, take any run and it is a micro... of a tour, take any tour and it speaks as a piece of the picture seen in a given year. This band, for me, is not defined by the corinna they played last night, rather it is defined by their perseverence, the Grateful dead have spoken to me and my life on so many levels it'll probably take me and my shrink the rest of my life to sort it all out, but one thing is as crystal clear to me as it ever was, and Phil coined it in the interview posted on this site, "This music won't let me have closure"
I can't stop going until they stop coming.
Peace out, have fun on the east!
Joan Stunk! Gunnar!
What a yawner. This lack luster performance doesn't deserve any more review than this. Sorry boys but you lost me for good with this.
That's why I skipped driving 8 hours to the gorge, sorry you finally got a semi-close show popi and it was a clunker.
>TapeCat gives us the set lists.
That would be the almighty TaperRob, the on the spot laptop wifi magician.
Thanks Ian. See, not only can't I spell. I can't read either.
So thanks TaperRob
"Fingr (misngfingr)"<----best screen name that I've seen round these parts
>>>>>>>All in all, a fine show, not an over the top, sell all your posessions and follow these guys to the end of the earth show, but certainly not a show that made me want to hang up my hat either, mainly because I was fortunate enough to see the Boise Show the night before, and that WAS a show that made me want to sell everything and hit the road!<<<<<<<
hell yeahhhh dude
nice rundown..cheers for that
Phil's gonna tweak a lil' of this and a lil' of THAT and there IT is..shift the gears and crack that old ~cosmic whip~ as the boys gravitate towards the gray Atlantic seas
In honor of the boys playing in Oregon last night I listened to 8-27-72...with regards to folks complaining about the setlists and all, I've been thinking about the "tweak factor". By that I mean the GD's ability to take you to the point of big time tweakage and flutter things back to life with the (((flutter))) that comes from beyond the outer rim. Jerry had a way of bringing your mind into a trance like state...so much so that when they kick the songs back into dance you're pleasantly awoken to the righteous glory of the GD's flow...
if you're wondering WTF I'm talking about please listen to the Playin' from Vaneta 72...if you don't have a copy drop me an email and I'll share the love(for those of you that email me within the next week or so from 7/4/04<---
“Thus may the 4th of July, that glorious and ever memorable day,be celebrated through America,by the sons of freedom, from age to age till time shall be no more. Amen and Amen.”
Virginia Gazette on July 18th, 1777
Maybe some can't get over the fact that this incarnation may well not be able to bet us to THAT particular point...really WHO the fuck can outside of the Grateful Dead of 72 with all the dynamics of that particular day????
I'm not like Bodi in Point Break waiting for the 100 year Storm..
I AM waiting not so patiently back east..
waiting for my set
(((((((((((one in ten thousand)))))))))))
corinna...long way...many roads...liberty......samba...etc....all shit and should never see the light of day again....hunter....weir...they re all to blame ....and even jeryy for singing that shit.....foolish heart is the lst song with any integrity at all....even standing is just a rip of the wharf rat/peter mode....tell me it ain't so....and whoever said that corinna rocks
....get a life and a career... cause you sure don't have one as a musical fan
outside of Liberty and Foolish Heart who ever said any of those songs are cool to hear??
gotta piss sometime I guess
agreed that there wasn't much flow to the Oregon setlist..
still though..it's all about finding the *good* flow riding it
like surfing..some days best not even to paddle out..
But if you got the board and the ocean I got the time..
Some pics from the Portland show. thanks.
Popi, don't leave us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
crossposted from the "One Foot In The Past and One In the Present... " thread in Other Stuff.
I think this band has the potential to really rock. They just didn't do it in Portland. I am not comparing them to anything. I just thought they gave a weak performance. Nobody in this band sucks nor does the band, they just did not give Portland 100%.
That said, I am really tired of the way this outfit treats the Pacific Northwest. I will wait till I hear the Gorge show before I make my final statement even though I do not consider Eastern Washington The Pacific Northwest as it is 5 hours inland and a completely different climate etc.
This Band or PLQ needs to come to Seattle and kick down a proper 3 night run in at The Paramount.Maybe I should have gone to the Gorge, but to be honest I really don't like Eastern Washington and rarely travel East of the Cascades.
Interesting day.. Venue is great. As laid back as it gets.. The show... Like 2 Set 1's.. Just a night of songs. All played extremely well & fun, but no jamming. Help>Slip>Franklin's was HUGE but wasn't enuf the salvage the entire show as a whole. Like I said before, 2 nice Set 1's....
The Gorge on the other hand............Best post GD music HANDS DOWN INSANITY!!!!!!!!!!! I'll review it in the Gorge section
Well, I am writing this from my childhome home in CT, but I was at the show Friday night in Portland. I drove the 6 hrs up from Northern Cali with my 5 and 3 y/os to hit the show before flying back to vist the fam...
I had a very similar experience to Jerry Jones'. A super -mellow great family scene on the lawn, just the type you'd want your kids to be at. Kind people all around. High hopes running rampant in my head from all the reviews and setlists... then the show started.
No need to rehash a lot of whats already been said, but for the first time EVER (20 yrs of shows) i left before an encore...To be honest, part of that was that i had to carry my sleeping 3 y/o a long way to the car and didnt want to stumble through a crowd in the dark. But the larger part of it were some strong feelings that friday night was my last "Dead" show ever.
I really really wish that I was moved by the current Band because I know we are all getting older...enjoy it before the moment ends right? Damn.
I walked super slowly with my son and daughter back to our truck listening to the great song Unbroken Chain, feeling like I had just broken up with a long-time girlfriend/wife whom I still loved but didnt feel in-love with anymore...bittersweet to say the least
Thank You for a real good time
Its down to the Q now.
I dont understand, 1 bad show and you guys are dumping the Dead. thats part of it. Shit I dealt with a whole shitty tour last summer and I still am going.
All i got to say to you people breaking up with the band is, youll be back. there is no doubt in my mind.
shit man read some of the Gorge reviews.
Bunch of quitters we got here. I dunno how you twats made it through the Jerry years.
Yeah, I'm kinda glad I had to miss Portland since I had to work until 7pm (didn't want to pay the big bucks for only part of the show) from these pretty lame reviews. Gorge was good...not great. But a great time all the same with some HIGH highlights. Glad I made it to the right show out of the two NW gigs.
>>>>>>> I dunno how you twats made it through the Jerry years.
Yeah, really, man, anyone who was at the Hartford/ Worcester run in the spring of '88 experienced the absolute BOTTOM OF THE PIT!!!
That run forced the retirement of all the peeps I had been taping/going to shows with at that time. I was the only hard core who stuck with them to the '89 MIDI revival.
Of course these days I see peeps offering up vines of these shows and other folks eagerly signing up and saying THEY ROCKED!!!!
LISTEN to how freakin' BAD those shows were!!!
It was there - if you were looking for it
ya know your etiher on the bus or not
Well I guess this answers my question, I guess Oregonians are satisfied with mediocrity.
hmmm...a group of us from California sure enjoyed this show. As a matter of fact, as a whole, I enjoyed this show more than the Shoreline & Sleeptrain. I thought the band did an excellent job capturing the mood and the vibe of our surroundings.
If you spent anytime in St. Helens than you would know that Liberty was a perfect opener for such a red-neck town. If you followed the Lazy River Road about 10 or 15 miles north of the meadows you'd pass the nuclear reactor sitting on the side of the river. Bob's comment about "look at all the hippies" at the end was perfect. Cause we sure got some strange and not so inviting looks in the town.
But inside the meadows a great vibe was found and many good people were hanging enjoying themselves. I left with a good feeling and was glad I made the trip up north for this show and the Gorge. And to be quite honest after the Shoreline and Sleeptrain, I was starting to question my trip up north. But Columbia Meadows and the Gorge quickly changed my mind. One thing is for sure, you can't judge this band by just looking at the setlist.
Im glad a lot of people had a great time and still get off on the shows that are happening now. Sorry if anyone was bummed out by my honest opinion. I do think its kinda odd though how some seem threatened/pissed by others who dont see things their way. Go see the band or stay home- Thats what freedom of choice and Liberty is all about
"...and you can't stop me..."
I saw the show in St. Helen's and everyone I was with thought it was an awesome show! It was laid back, groovy and spoke volumes to those who dialed into the music.
One thing you can't go by right now with the band is the paper setlist! I would never in a million years requested the setlist from this particular night... But the WAY it was played was pretty down and dirty!
Someone mentioned in a review earlier about not hearing the songs arranged as they normally are/have been!
Bottom line: I enjoyed the hell out of the show! In fact, I can't say I really haven't enjoyed a show since my first time in 1977.
These guys are and always have been all over the place. And guess what! WE NEVER GET THE SAME SHOW TWICE!!!!!
Last time I checked, that was the beauty of this band throughout history! All of us who actually attended several shows this leg agreed on one thing...
Each night was completely different than the next night! We summed it up like this, we saw a completely different animal every single night, kind of like going to the zoo!
So as always, I'll be riding on this bus until it crashes and burns and AT LEAST I'M ENJOYING THE RIDE!
OK, now I gotta go to the Gorge thread and see how badly you all trashed the boys there!
Please compare the dead to the dead.
I was at Portland and the Gorge and all I can say is the criticism of the Portland show is well deserved, but man does it break my heart to hear that many decided to can the Gorge show the next night. YOU MISSED OUT!!!!!!!!!!!
i enjoyed both shows very much. this band rocks and is far better than last years incarnation. the boys are having fun again like the old old days. for those of you who have not enjoyed this NEW band which rose from the ashes.....well, hope you find something that works for you. Thanks to the boys for showing me "a real good time" unbroken chain encore....phil you are the best thank you
Part 3: Portland Meadows
After stopping to sleep in the Blue Mt of western Oregon we drove directly to the show not taking time to see any sights or hike. Hurry up and wait… they were a bit unorganized letting folks in to camp; the line and wait were loooooooooooooong. Good thing is once we were in our camp was surrounded by nice people. Took a nap that I badly needed.
This is only my opinion but the crowd has as much to do with the show as the band. These were nice people but they just didn’t seem to be into it. I think the quality of the show reflects this. It is also the right time to mention the sound… It sucked. As a matter of fact, if you were behind the soundboard at any of the first 3 shows I went to it was bad… at Portland it was the worst! My thought was that judging from the first set I could have saved time and miles by skipping this one. I snuck up into the reserved section for the second set that sounded better and made the show passable.
Song highlight were the Dear Mr. Fantasy and Iko Iko from the first set. The second set was better. Although the set list shows > between the Weight and Peggy O, there was a complete train wreck when Bob messed up the transition… most of the crowd noticed as here was increased chatter and snickering.
Starting with Drums and Space this show finally got headed in the right direction. Toward the end of Stella Blue I noticed Phil coming over to talk to Bob… right after that they went into Help on the Way. Help > Slip > Franklin’s was the highlight of the show. The Unbroken Chain was a great tune for the encore but trailed off into space at the end and kinda left me hanging. (See part 4 under the Gorge thread)
I enjoyed the Columbia Meadows show, although they had us dump our apples, but the sgows lack of coherence and too many not my-first-choice songs also derailed me from going to the Gorge, although I knew the Gorge would rock and had planned on it. That was the first time I let a show slip within 3 hours driving distance.
I wanted to see the Dead with the Allmans, but I thought after the Meadows I already had my dose of bottleneck screeching delivered by Warren and Jimmy. I wished they would cut back on it. It is sad enough that Jerry's sweetness is gone, but it is a bit harsh having it superseded by these ear piercing sounds. Don't get me wrong, I love Warren and I am all excited for him being in the Dead, its great having a real voice back.
I missed Phil in the mix, I tried to locate him, but it was too hard to follow him. Yes, Unbroken Chain was the peak experience. But Bob Hunter nailed it nicely as he did the collective exorcism of 'New Speedway Boogie'. I love that 'One way or another this darkness got to give' He did not really stretch that part as I have heard him do it before, but he cut to the heart of it singing:
'One way or another that Son of a Bitch got to be kicked out of office'
There the crowd woke up and cheered.
In the end we picked up our apples and drove home to Seattle.
Here's some photos of the show.
To view larger, click on the view full sreen or original size iin the lower right corner..